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Post by floorpunchchalie on Apr 25, 2024 9:07:36 GMT -5
That first Candy 7inch and first LP rocked but everything after is meh. That song posted above if fuckin ass. Yet another band starting out trying to do the whole converge thing but it wasn’t good.
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Post by fuzzyslippers on Apr 25, 2024 9:26:55 GMT -5
Candy never sounded like Converge
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Post by throwdemgunz on Apr 25, 2024 9:30:56 GMT -5
Is this what hardcore sounds like now no but these are the only "hardcore" bands getting record deals and big budget videos and shit And Rolling Stone articles about how they’re pushing the boundaries of the genre.
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Post by agunrack on Apr 25, 2024 9:51:05 GMT -5
candy definitely sounds like converge to me and i don't mean that as a compliment to either candy or converge
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Post by nastyy on Apr 25, 2024 10:14:32 GMT -5
That Rain in September song from the Candy demo is a gym staple 👍
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Apr 25, 2024 10:25:52 GMT -5
Candy never sounded like Converge You sure, the songs Human Condition and Mutilation reminds me of Converge
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Post by Ass Dan on Apr 25, 2024 10:29:12 GMT -5
Apparently a band “starts out” with their third non demo release.
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Post by hAloween h2o fan on Apr 25, 2024 10:31:54 GMT -5
No I get it bc a band is "Starting out" is when I first heard them too
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Apr 25, 2024 10:33:26 GMT -5
Why is it hardcore in general usually have people involved in the community who only like the demo and the 7 inch?
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Post by nastyy on Apr 25, 2024 10:34:45 GMT -5
Why is it hardcore in general usually have people involved in the community who only like the demo and the 7 inch? bands usually aren't that good
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Post by hAloween h2o fan on Apr 25, 2024 10:35:19 GMT -5
Because after a certain point all their shit sounds the same or they change styles which is usually worse
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Post by durangoderanged on Apr 25, 2024 10:44:17 GMT -5
Singer of Mutually Assured Destruction tweeted about not liking Possessed or Morbid Angel and now I feel so justified in never having listened to that band. I never liked Mutually Assured Destruction, this gives me more reason to pass on them.
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Post by Ronaldo Artest on Apr 25, 2024 10:44:37 GMT -5
Because that’s when the best shit is written. There’s no hype, nothing to live up to, no one to impress. They’re just writing shit they’d wanna hear. It’s not forced at all (for the most part).
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Apr 25, 2024 10:47:00 GMT -5
Why is it hardcore in general usually have people involved in the community who only like the demo and the 7 inch? bands usually aren't that good I don’t see it that, I see it as people trying to appear “cool” for whatever silly reason. Take Converge for example, that logic wouldn’t apply because they created Jane Doe 5-6 years later when being a band.
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Post by nastyy on Apr 25, 2024 10:50:17 GMT -5
bands usually aren't that good I don’t see it that, I see it as people trying to appear “cool” for whatever silly reason. Take Converge for example, that logic wouldn’t apply because they created Jane Doe 5-6 years later when being a band. nah it’s definitely that 💯
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Post by Ass Dan on Apr 25, 2024 10:50:46 GMT -5
Sounds like you’re projecting Chaz.
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Apr 25, 2024 10:54:12 GMT -5
Sounds like you’re projecting Chaz. It’s definitely noticeable, another that snuffs out that demo and 7 inch talk is a band like drug church. Cheer which is their third LP is their best material. Basically you can find hardcore bands where their best material is not the demo and 7 inch.
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Post by fuzzyslippers on Apr 25, 2024 10:57:57 GMT -5
I agree there are exceptions to the rule but I’ve also never thought of Drug Church as a hardcore band either
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Post by Ass Dan on Apr 25, 2024 10:59:07 GMT -5
Do you really believe the average hardcore band has more than a few good song ideas?
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Post by Perm’d by God on Apr 25, 2024 11:00:08 GMT -5
bands usually aren't that good I don’t see it that, I see it as people trying to appear “cool” for whatever silly reason. Take Converge for example, that logic wouldn’t apply because they created Jane Doe 5-6 years later when being a band. Does it ever occur to you that other people disagree with you for reasons other than “trying to appear cool”? Also Converge is doodoo but Jane Doe came out after they’d been a band for 10 years.
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Apr 25, 2024 11:45:58 GMT -5
I don’t see it that, I see it as people trying to appear “cool” for whatever silly reason. Take Converge for example, that logic wouldn’t apply because they created Jane Doe 5-6 years later when being a band. Does it ever occur to you that other people disagree with you for reasons other than “trying to appear cool”? Also Converge is doodoo but Jane Doe came out after they’d been a band for 10 years. If you think converge is doodoo you have to reevaluate your music taste because they done more for metal and hardcore than any trash can basement dwelling band that breaks up in 2 months you ever listened to.
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Apr 25, 2024 11:50:49 GMT -5
Do you really believe the average hardcore band has more than a few good song ideas? Idk I thought Turnstile had some good ideas when they created “Glow On”. Seeing that progression and growth from when I first saw them in 2013 is pretty surreal.
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Post by Perm’d by God on Apr 25, 2024 11:51:15 GMT -5
Does it ever occur to you that other people disagree with you for reasons other than “trying to appear cool”? Also Converge is doodoo but Jane Doe came out after they’d been a band for 10 years. If you think converge is doodoo you have to reevaluate your music taste because they done more for metal and hardcore than any trash can basement dwelling band that breaks up in 2 months you ever listened to. I have to reevaluate my music taste because of... things that have nothing to do with the music that they play? Okay, that makes sense. I don't what it is that Converge did for metal and hardcore other than the proliferation of some of the most boring, self-indulgent opening acts of all time.
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Apr 25, 2024 11:53:42 GMT -5
If you think converge is doodoo you have to reevaluate your music taste because they done more for metal and hardcore than any trash can basement dwelling band that breaks up in 2 months you ever listened to. I have to reevaluate my music taste because of... things that have nothing to do with the music that they play? Okay, that makes sense. I don't what it is that Converge did for metal and hardcore other than the proliferation of some of the most boring, self-indulgent opening acts of all time. If you think converge did nothing than just that half baked apinion you must have been really eating the lead paint chippies. Again this is a legendary band who put out banger after banger after banger.
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Post by Perm’d by God on Apr 25, 2024 11:59:14 GMT -5
I don't need to have more than a half-baked apinion on a shitty band.
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Post by landlord beef on Apr 25, 2024 11:59:47 GMT -5
Converge definitely did something - they're responsible for a million bands that came after them playing the worst shit you've ever heard.
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Post by youthofwhodey on Apr 25, 2024 12:05:44 GMT -5
Y'all can shut up and converge on these nuts.
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Post by throwdemgunz on Apr 25, 2024 12:42:42 GMT -5
Does it ever occur to you that other people disagree with you for reasons other than “trying to appear cool”? Also Converge is doodoo but Jane Doe came out after they’d been a band for 10 years. If you think converge is doodoo you have to reevaluate your music taste because they done more for metal and hardcore than any trash can basement dwelling band that breaks up in 2 months you ever listened to. Would love to hear what you think theyve done for hc/metal. Because I think their influence has been detrimental in so many ways.
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Apr 25, 2024 12:50:22 GMT -5
If you think converge is doodoo you have to reevaluate your music taste because they done more for metal and hardcore than any trash can basement dwelling band that breaks up in 2 months you ever listened to. Would love to hear what you think theyve done for hc/metal. Because I think their influence has been detrimental in so many ways. For starters they created a sound that was completely ahead of its time. A lot of Kurt Ballou’s guitar riffs are insane and completely pushes the boundaries which they have been doing as a band for the last 25+ years. They aren’t vanilla that’s for sure. Also in terms of the scene Ballou in particular produced a lot of records working with up and coming bands. Jake has continued to pursue his artwork which many bands took to having an album cover of. My favorite probably being Killing The Dream In Place Apart.
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Post by throwdemgunz on Apr 25, 2024 13:06:46 GMT -5
You should check out Rorschach
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