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Post by BIL Security Team Alpha on Jul 11, 2024 18:18:56 GMT -5
Kublai Khan’s popularity is super weird to me. I’m not above smoothbrain gym music but I just listened to that monkey see monkey do song and it’s so boring!!! Nothing happens!! theres some idea that they’re like they apex of weight lifting music which is obviously not true cause they’re not merauder, master killer I dunno, they just sound like what the guys killing kids in Iraq would listen to.
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Post by thezman on Jul 11, 2024 21:52:46 GMT -5
I saw Green Room at an advance screening at Lincoln Center in early 2016. Jeremy Saulnier did a brief Q+A after and I got to ask one of the two questions he fielded. I basically asked how much personal life experience informed his writing of the film and he said that he grew up going to shows in DC / VA and would see Nazi skins all the time and that was the inspiration for it. I talked to a couple DMV guys later who sorta vouched for him (I think they just said he was def there but also was gone not long after). Anyway the movie is good once they’re in the actual green room. All the music stuff is really bad and false. No not Nazi band would play a Nazi compound and they sure as fuck wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” without getting beaten to death. Also the part when the guy is like “my cousin is a skin” and they’re like “what kind? SHARPS? DMS?” I def did a Tim Allen “huhhhhh?” in the theater when they said that. To be fair, it is a movie so of course not everything will be accurate to reality.. I did a Q&A a couple nights ago with Saulnier. He mentioned Gut Instinct as a local band he was into back when he was going to shows. I did way too much research on the movie/him preceding the screening lol Nearly every other punk/hardcore/etc. movie (especially from the eighties) is like super camp or ridiculous. At least this one has one foot in reality/history.
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Post by oatmeal on Jul 11, 2024 22:02:48 GMT -5
theres some idea that they’re like they apex of weight lifting music which is obviously not true cause they’re not merauder, master killer I dunno, they just sound like what the guys killing kids in Iraq would listen to. Can confirm guy who hit on me at the KK/Sunami show did end up being former military and wildly racist upon looking at his instagram
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Post by crimsonotter on Jul 12, 2024 5:50:03 GMT -5
The singer is dumb as fuck and spouts his mouth online about some real maga type nonsense.
They’re just today’s version of Emmure or similar bands. Trash for people that pretend to be hard
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Post by throwdemgunz on Jul 12, 2024 8:51:06 GMT -5
I saw Green Room at an advance screening at Lincoln Center in early 2016. Jeremy Saulnier did a brief Q+A after and I got to ask one of the two questions he fielded. I basically asked how much personal life experience informed his writing of the film and he said that he grew up going to shows in DC / VA and would see Nazi skins all the time and that was the inspiration for it. I talked to a couple DMV guys later who sorta vouched for him (I think they just said he was def there but also was gone not long after). Anyway the movie is good once they’re in the actual green room. All the music stuff is really bad and false. No not Nazi band would play a Nazi compound and they sure as fuck wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” without getting beaten to death. Also the part when the guy is like “my cousin is a skin” and they’re like “what kind? SHARPS? DMS?” I def did a Tim Allen “huhhhhh?” in the theater when they said that. To be fair, it is a movie so of course not everything will be accurate to reality.. I did a Q&A a couple nights ago with Saulnier. He mentioned Gut Instinct as a local band he was into back when he was going to shows. I did way too much research on the movie/him preceding the screening lol Nearly every other punk/hardcore/etc. movie (especially from the eighties) is like super camp or ridiculous. At least this one has one foot in reality/history. Gut Instinct fucking rocks that dude is a real one
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Post by 2006 Gucci Mane on Jul 12, 2024 9:00:43 GMT -5
theres some idea that they’re like they apex of weight lifting music which is obviously not true cause they’re not merauder, master killer I dunno, they just sound like what the guys killing kids in Iraq would listen to. Thats a perfect description.
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Post by Ass Dan on Jul 12, 2024 9:27:29 GMT -5
The singer’s head is really small too. What’s up with that?
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Post by nastyy on Jul 12, 2024 9:54:01 GMT -5
The singer’s head is really small too. What’s up with that? he's barry bonds' son
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Post by Ian MacFlai on Jul 12, 2024 9:54:21 GMT -5
I saw Green Room at an advance screening at Lincoln Center in early 2016. Jeremy Saulnier did a brief Q+A after and I got to ask one of the two questions he fielded. I basically asked how much personal life experience informed his writing of the film and he said that he grew up going to shows in DC / VA and would see Nazi skins all the time and that was the inspiration for it. I talked to a couple DMV guys later who sorta vouched for him (I think they just said he was def there but also was gone not long after). Anyway the movie is good once they’re in the actual green room. All the music stuff is really bad and false. No not Nazi band would play a Nazi compound and they sure as fuck wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” without getting beaten to death. Also the part when the guy is like “my cousin is a skin” and they’re like “what kind? SHARPS? DMS?” I def did a Tim Allen “huhhhhh?” in the theater when they said that. To be fair, it is a movie so of course not everything will be accurate to reality.. I did a Q&A a couple nights ago with Saulnier. He mentioned Gut Instinct as a local band he was into back when he was going to shows. I did way too much research on the movie/him preceding the screening lol Nearly every other punk/hardcore/etc. movie (especially from the eighties) is like super camp or ridiculous. At least this one has one foot in reality/history. yeah and whether he intended or not, most of that hamfisted dialogue can be attributed directly to the characters - in the beginning they are all trying WAY too hard and slowly start dropping all the punk bullshit once they're staring death in the face
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 9:59:42 GMT -5
Ok but no hardcore kid / punk would play at a Nazi compound. They’d get there and realize it’s a fucking Nazi compound, say “hey we’re gonna go to the gas station” and not come back.
They also wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” to a room full of Nazis cause they would literally die (in ways outlined later in the movie).
Again, everything once they’re in the actual green room, great. Everything before, bad.
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Post by throwdemgunz on Jul 12, 2024 10:12:18 GMT -5
This is like the subculture version of the "Is Diehard a christmas movie?" debate.
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Post by throwdemgunz on Jul 12, 2024 10:13:48 GMT -5
Also since Gut Instinct was brought up and we're discussing whether or not a band would play at a nazi compound, heres Gut Instinct after playing at a nazi venue
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Post by tandoori jones on Jul 12, 2024 10:15:00 GMT -5
This is like the subculture version of the "Is Diehard a christmas movie?" debate. but there’s no debate. the movie happens at a literal christmas party
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Post by candywarhol on Jul 12, 2024 10:17:53 GMT -5
Ok but no hardcore kid / punk would play at a Nazi compound. They’d get there and realize it’s a fucking Nazi compound, say “hey we’re gonna go to the gas station” and not come back. They also wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” to a room full of Nazis cause they would literally die (in ways outlined later in the movie). Again, everything once they’re in the actual green room, great. Everything before, bad. Another thing I had a hard time believing in this movie was anyone in a hardcore/punk band begging to call the police the way they did after finding the dead body.
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Post by youthofwhodey on Jul 12, 2024 10:26:02 GMT -5
Ok but no hardcore kid / punk would play at a Nazi compound. They’d get there and realize it’s a fucking Nazi compound, say “hey we’re gonna go to the gas station” and not come back. They also wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” to a room full of Nazis cause they would literally die (in ways outlined later in the movie). Again, everything once they’re in the actual green room, great. Everything before, bad. Another thing I had a hard time believing in this movie was anyone in a hardcore/punk band begging to call the police the way they did after finding the dead body. Most people are actually not as punk as we think
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Post by Ted Mujint on Jul 12, 2024 10:33:39 GMT -5
Ok but no hardcore kid / punk would play at a Nazi compound. They’d get there and realize it’s a fucking Nazi compound, say “hey we’re gonna go to the gas station” and not come back. They also wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” to a room full of Nazis cause they would literally die (in ways outlined later in the movie). Again, everything once they’re in the actual green room, great. Everything before, bad. Personally, I would. And I have gotten into scraps with legit B49 and 211 Nazis before. You need to fight for your subculture. It's already enough of a struggle being a Marxist in the oi scene, so yeah I would do that and I'd welcome the fight.
The kids in the movie are nothing like me and either of my bands though. The singer of my second band is literally a 6ft 5 powerlifter who has a gun-related clothing line. And also a skinhead lol - so we've got skin in the game(pun absolutely intended)
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Post by Ted Mujint on Jul 12, 2024 10:34:16 GMT -5
You can absolutely fight guys that are much, much tougher than you and win. It's just called being personable and having more friends than them(does not apply to the characters in the movie).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 10:56:05 GMT -5
Also since Gut Instinct was brought up and we're discussing whether or not a band would play at a nazi compound, heres Gut Instinct after playing at a nazi venue lol that was a motorcycle clubhouse in the middle of park slope, not a nazi compound in rural Oregon. Not exactly the same thing but yes that’s a close corollary and I’m positive it inspired the movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 10:57:42 GMT -5
Also fighting Nazis in the streets =\= being at a nazi compound in the woods where you’re surrounded and where no one can hear you scream
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Post by Osama Vinladen Jiménez López on Jul 12, 2024 11:02:01 GMT -5
tf are we even talking about rn. there are furries moshing. no one is safe
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Post by dogmeat on Jul 12, 2024 11:02:59 GMT -5
Lmao classic traffic played a show in new brunswick a couple of months ago and my dad came who because he is 1000 years old is convinced any skinhead is a nazi and there were a few at the gig and he asked me afterwards and i had to explain it’s not 1980 anymore
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Post by dogmeat on Jul 12, 2024 11:03:37 GMT -5
he was ready to stab this random 20 year old with a shaved head it was awesome
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Post by dogmeat on Jul 12, 2024 11:07:38 GMT -5
Investment bankers crowdkilling while wearing a Rolex is not something I would have foreseen 20 years ago. Somebody should liberate that from his wrist, stat. a buddy of mine was hanging out with another friend who is friends with all of these crust punks and he assumed they were all homeless until one guy mentioned he works at morgan stanley
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Post by Ted Mujint on Jul 12, 2024 11:08:49 GMT -5
Also fighting Nazis in the streets =\= being at a nazi compound in the woods where you’re surrounded and where no one can hear you scream that's actually facts I didn't think of that
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Post by Ronaldo Artest on Jul 12, 2024 11:12:34 GMT -5
I have a love/hate relationship with Kublai Khan because while they suck complete ass and I wish they would go away, I also like them from the stand point of they are a good identifier that if you like them, I'll steer far clear of you. Liking KK means we don't like the same type of hardcore and I have absolutely nothing in common with you and never want to conversate with you. so yeah, hate em but love em as well.
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Post by nastyy on Jul 12, 2024 11:26:03 GMT -5
Ok but no hardcore kid / punk would play at a Nazi compound. They’d get there and realize it’s a fucking Nazi compound, say “hey we’re gonna go to the gas station” and not come back. They also wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” to a room full of Nazis cause they would literally die (in ways outlined later in the movie). Again, everything once they’re in the actual green room, great. Everything before, bad. You need to fight for your subculture. It's already enough of a struggle being a Marxist in the oi scene Hard Times article title ass post
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Post by throwdemgunz on Jul 12, 2024 11:37:58 GMT -5
Ok but no hardcore kid / punk would play at a Nazi compound. They’d get there and realize it’s a fucking Nazi compound, say “hey we’re gonna go to the gas station” and not come back. They also wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” to a room full of Nazis cause they would literally die (in ways outlined later in the movie). Again, everything once they’re in the actual green room, great. Everything before, bad. I always just chalked this up to the band not having IG or Reddit available to them on o-count of it being set in the 80s, so they didn’t have any resources to ask about whether or not it was a good idea to play the compound.
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Post by throwdemgunz on Jul 12, 2024 11:39:45 GMT -5
A quick dm to justifiedarrogance nyc or a post on Bil could have prevented so much bloodshed.
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Post by BadScene on Jul 12, 2024 11:46:12 GMT -5
Wasn't it implied once they entered the compound, they were pretty much trapped? I don't think it would be so easy to just peace out and say you're going to get some gas. The band now knows about this illicit nazi compound. It was the equivalent of a mosh or be moshed situation. Agreed, that playing NPFO would've gotten them annihilated.
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Post by durangoderanged on Jul 12, 2024 11:46:31 GMT -5
I saw Green Room at an advance screening at Lincoln Center in early 2016. Jeremy Saulnier did a brief Q+A after and I got to ask one of the two questions he fielded. I basically asked how much personal life experience informed his writing of the film and he said that he grew up going to shows in DC / VA and would see Nazi skins all the time and that was the inspiration for it. I talked to a couple DMV guys later who sorta vouched for him (I think they just said he was def there but also was gone not long after). Anyway the movie is good once they’re in the actual green room. All the music stuff is really bad and false. No not Nazi band would play a Nazi compound and they sure as fuck wouldn’t play “Nazi Punks Fuck Off” without getting beaten to death. Also the part when the guy is like “my cousin is a skin” and they’re like “what kind? SHARPS? DMS?” I def did a Tim Allen “huhhhhh?” in the theater when they said that. To be fair, it is a movie so of course not everything will be accurate to reality.. I did a Q&A a couple nights ago with Saulnier. He mentioned Gut Instinct as a local band he was into back when he was going to shows. I did way too much research on the movie/him preceding the screening lol Nearly every other punk/hardcore/etc. movie (especially from the eighties) is like super camp or ridiculous. At least this one has one foot in reality/history. That's sick, gut instinct is super underrated EDIT: I met the gut instinct frontman once and he confirmed to me they were indeed trapped in the nazi joint.
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