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Post by Street Sweeper BFA on Apr 7, 2019 16:23:13 GMT -5
One of my closest friends works for other half and they just did a genny cream ale collab
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 16:52:24 GMT -5
had some Goose Island Bourbon Country Brand Stout then finished it off with some Samuel Smiths Chocolate Stout   I have the goose island wheat wine that I've been saving. Not sure what to expect with it though as I've never had wheat wine. |
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Post by I Gave You Power on Apr 7, 2019 17:37:18 GMT -5
Love AZW. That, Wren House and 12 West are the must-stops for me when I go to Phoenix. Gonna hit Tuscon this year, too, real excited to check out Pueblo Vida. Going to Phoenix in June and Tucson in October. Definitely checking these out, thanks! Nice! For PHX, I'd recommend going to the new downtown location of AZW. Because from there, you can easily walk to The Breadfruit (fucking dope rum bar), Cobra Arcade Bar (self-explanatory), The Sazerac (awesome cocktail bar) and Angel's Trumpet Ale House (craft beer bar). They're all legit on the same two blocks. That also puts you real close to the Phoenix Art Museum, which was fun. Pizzeria Bianco (considered by some to be the best pizza in the country) is also very close if you wanna grab some food. For Tuscon, just park downtown and you can walk to everything. Start off by grabbing some food from Street Taco & Beer Co (get the al pastor), and then you can walk to Iron John's, Ten55 and Pueblo Vida. On that same street is delicious ice cream at Hub. Less than a mile from there is 4th Ave, which is a main artery for bars/food/etc. Hit Ermano's for food and beer. I don't have a ton else on Tuscon, but if you want Phoenix recs let me know, I spend a week there every year so I've been around. |
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Post by Yung Nick on Apr 16, 2019 8:59:50 GMT -5
 Not my picture, but a friend had these the other night so I grabbed one. Had to get my own yesterday and sucked em down quickly. Only like 5.2% so not bad at all and it tastes killer. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 9:12:23 GMT -5
why does so cal still have a raging boner for all things IPA, specifically double or triple IPAs? serious question. i would have assumed if they popularized the style in the craft beer scene like over ten years ago at this point that places would be on to something new by now.
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Post by escapedfromthevalley on Apr 16, 2019 9:21:05 GMT -5
why does so cal still have a raging boner for all things IPA, specifically double or triple IPAs? serious question. i would have assumed if they popularized the style in the craft beer scene like over ten years ago at this point that places would be on to something new by now. They're still what drives most of the craft breweries around MA too. It's relatively common to see 8-10 different IPA styles and only one farmhouse ale when I go. I love IPAs but I would like to start seeing more variety in a breweries roster. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 9:45:17 GMT -5
why does so cal still have a raging boner for all things IPA, specifically double or triple IPAs? serious question. i would have assumed if they popularized the style in the craft beer scene like over ten years ago at this point that places would be on to something new by now. They're still what drives most of the craft breweries around MA too. It's relatively common to see 8-10 different IPA styles and only one farmhouse ale when I go. I love IPAs but I would like to start seeing more variety in a breweries roster. i just wanna have beers that won't get me hammered after 1-2 yfm? |
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Post by Athrenody on Apr 16, 2019 13:40:30 GMT -5
Craft beer is all a gimmick. but its a gimmick that pays my bills so lets brew some jooseipas and call it a day.
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Post by I Gave You Power on Apr 18, 2019 7:48:52 GMT -5
why does so cal still have a raging boner for all things IPA, specifically double or triple IPAs? serious question. i would have assumed if they popularized the style in the craft beer scene like over ten years ago at this point that places would be on to something new by now. I mean, that's literally been the case everywhere for more than a decade. IPAs are what sells the most and second place isn't close. And the West Coast may have popularized IPAs, but that was back when a west coast IPA was THE IPA. Now you've got New England IPAs, milkshake IPAs, brut IPAs, old-school East Coast IPAs, cryo-hopped IPAs, sour IPAs, the list goes on. My only old-man-yells-at-cloud gripe is that I wish more places did either pale ales or, like, 6% IPAs. You can find those in NY very easily, but ~8% IIPA is still by far the biggest piece of the pie and less and less of the time do I want something with that high of an ABV. |
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Post by I Gave You Power on Apr 18, 2019 7:50:10 GMT -5
why does so cal still have a raging boner for all things IPA, specifically double or triple IPAs? serious question. i would have assumed if they popularized the style in the craft beer scene like over ten years ago at this point that places would be on to something new by now. They're still what drives most of the craft breweries around MA too. It's relatively common to see 8-10 different IPA styles and only one farmhouse ale when I go. I love IPAs but I would like to start seeing more variety in a breweries roster. Battery Steele in Maine was the worst I've ever seen with this shit. Eight taps, literally ALL indistinguishable NEIPAs. No pales, no lagers, no sours, stouts, anything. Eight taps, eight NEIPAs. That's trash. |
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Post by I Gave You Power on Apr 18, 2019 8:07:16 GMT -5
why does so cal still have a raging boner for all things IPA, specifically double or triple IPAs? serious question. i would have assumed if they popularized the style in the craft beer scene like over ten years ago at this point that places would be on to something new by now. I mean, that's literally been the case everywhere for more than a decade. IPAs are what sells the most and second place isn't close. And the West Coast may have popularized IPAs, but that was back when a west coast IPA was THE IPA. Now you've got New England IPAs, milkshake IPAs, brut IPAs, old-school East Coast IPAs, cryo-hopped IPAs, sour IPAs, the list goes on. My only old-man-yells-at-cloud gripe is that I wish more places did either pale ales or, like, 6% IPAs. You can find those in NY very easily, but ~8% IIPA is still by far the biggest piece of the pie and less and less of the time do I want something with that high of an ABV. This said -- just had a pineapple/coconut sour from Urban Family/Bottle Logic that I could have had four bombers of easily. Didn't realize until after I drank it that it was 9%. |
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Post by jonnybank on Apr 18, 2019 8:14:30 GMT -5
Had the Stillwater Artisanal Ales Action Bronson Collage - 7000 - It was delicious. 5% which was a plus probably could have killed quite a few but only got 1 because I wasn't sure how it was going to be.
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Post by animalnitrate on Apr 18, 2019 8:17:39 GMT -5
They're still what drives most of the craft breweries around MA too. It's relatively common to see 8-10 different IPA styles and only one farmhouse ale when I go. I love IPAs but I would like to start seeing more variety in a breweries roster. Battery Steele in Maine was the worst I've ever seen with this shit. Eight taps, literally ALL indistinguishable NEIPAs. No pales, no lagers, no sours, stouts, anything. Eight taps, eight NEIPAs. That's trash. That is stupid, and as someone who works in a brewery taproom, seems like it probably makes the life of the people who work there miserable. Like, my workplace is known for hazy DDH IPA stuff mostly, but every shift I have people asking me what we have that tastes like Blue Moon or Stella or something to that effect. If we didn't have our pilsners/kolsches or our white lager on draft, I feel like I'd seem like a giant asshole who doesn't know what he's doing trying to push whatever the easiest drinking IPA we have on them is, even after they tell me straight up "I don't like IPAs" |
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Post by I Gave You Power on Apr 18, 2019 8:48:42 GMT -5
Yeah as a taproom, if you don't have something there for macro drinkers, you are quite literally shoving money out the door. Both right then, and you're alienating a potential long-term customer. As you said, you can focus on IPAs, fine, but have a pils, kolsch or dry irish stout on at all times. There's not a drinker on earth that won't be placated by either a macro-approximate like a good pils, a kolsch, or a Guinness-approximate irish stout. And from there, you've got somebody that will either A) Branch into the rest of craft beer or B) Come back to your spot for that pils/kolsch/stout. You can't lose.
And, actually, it's not even just that. I'll probably never go back to Battery Steele (even though I love NEIPAs), but if you make a bangin' kolsch, I will beat down the doors to get to you. That's something that makes you stand out in the craft beer landscape to people that will love and drink craft beer in 5, 10, 20 years when NEIPAs aren't (as) in vogue as they are now. And there are plenty of people out there like me.
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Post by refill on Apr 18, 2019 9:32:31 GMT -5
One of the worst things known to man is the macro drinker who wants to sample everything and then says "I don't really like IPAs"
In other news, I'm headed to Detroit tomorrow, so I'm pretty excited to check out the Founders and Jolly Pumpkin spots there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 11:48:39 GMT -5
why does so cal still have a raging boner for all things IPA, specifically double or triple IPAs? serious question. i would have assumed if they popularized the style in the craft beer scene like over ten years ago at this point that places would be on to something new by now. I mean, that's literally been the case everywhere for more than a decade. IPAs are what sells the most and second place isn't close. And the West Coast may have popularized IPAs, but that was back when a west coast IPA was THE IPA. Now you've got New England IPAs, milkshake IPAs, brut IPAs, old-school East Coast IPAs, cryo-hopped IPAs, sour IPAs, the list goes on. My only old-man-yells-at-cloud gripe is that I wish more places did either pale ales or, like, 6% IPAs. You can find those in NY very easily, but ~8% IIPA is still by far the biggest piece of the pie and less and less of the time do I want something with that high of an ABV. yeah a few years ago i made the switch to preferring pales over IPAs and haven't looked back since. i'd be so stoked if more places out here did lagers/pilsners/dark shit. modern times is the only brewery in san diego i've been to so far that has a true variety to their offerings (plus everything i have had from them is amazing, so there's that too) |
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Post by animalnitrate on Apr 18, 2019 12:30:51 GMT -5
I wish that more US breweries would do ESBs. I know that's a super not on trend style, and would sell like shit (my other bar carried the very good, very local Rockaway ESB, and I'd move like... 3 cans a week), but man, when done well, what a perfect fucking beer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 12:42:44 GMT -5
I wish that more US breweries would do ESBs. I know that's a super not on trend style, and would sell like shit (my other bar carried the very good, very local Rockaway ESB, and I'd move like... 3 cans a week), but man, when done well, what a perfect fucking beer. truth, big fan. the bar i used to work at had burning beard's ESB on for a while and i loved it. |
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Post by escapedfromthevalley on Apr 18, 2019 13:24:01 GMT -5
Haven't seen an ESB in ages. Nobody around here makes one.
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Post by I Gave You Power on Apr 18, 2019 13:37:17 GMT -5
Love, love a good ESB. Been to a few breweries in the last few months making them. So they've not been completely forgotten, though it feels it.
And while we're here -- bocks. THAT'S a style that the beer world has completely and totally forgotten.
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Post by Yung Nick on Apr 18, 2019 13:42:44 GMT -5
IGYP - you seem like the beer dude here. I don't know shit about em and I am not a person for new things. I really fuck with the sour I posted above and another sour from Kelsen's in Derry NH. Got any recommendations based off that? I like the tarty taste it has, but I like how it isn't too sugary as in wrecking my stomach if i accidentally drink it too fast. Goes down nice and has a very good taste imo. fuck...might get more tonight
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Post by I Gave You Power on Apr 18, 2019 14:46:55 GMT -5
Good news is that "I don't know shit about 'em" is where literally everyone starts, so you've got the whole beer world ahead of you and I'm jealous TBH.
I'd be happy to throw some recs your way, but first -- where are you located? Beer is hyper-regional now so it's tough to tell you much without knowing what state you're in. Judging by the Banded, I'll assume VT, MA or ME (not familiar with the NH brewery so that doesn't help me) so let me know and I'll have some good things to recommend for ya.
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Post by Yung Nick on Apr 18, 2019 15:01:26 GMT -5
I'm from southern NH, right on the MA line next to Haverhill. I have a friend who frequents breweries so I've been asking to tag along. Intimidating environment to be in without any knowledge though so that's why i really only go to em with him. That's who I wen't to Kelsen's with. Cool place and good 'za. Going to a brewery with no beer knowledge is like going to your first gig alone..lol
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Post by slowmath on Apr 18, 2019 15:31:14 GMT -5
this talk of a lack of choices really makes me appreciate the beer scene around me a little more. most of the locals do have more IPAs on the board than anything else, but all of them constantly have at least a blonde or golden ale on tap and their rotating taps vary pretty widely.
even the bigger regionals like Surly and Summit have a pretty wide variety of different beers at any time with Surly in particular really pushing their kolsch-style ale, golden ale, pilsner and lager going into summer. Summit isn't nearly as aggressive, but I really enjoy their portfolio, they do a lot of more traditional styles that others ignore.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 15:45:28 GMT -5
I'm from southern NH, right on the MA line next to Haverhill. I have a friend who frequents breweries so I've been asking to tag along. Intimidating environment to be in without any knowledge though so that's why i really only go to em with him. That's who I wen't to Kelsen's with. Cool place and good 'za. Going to a brewery with no beer knowledge is like going to your first gig alone..lol going to shows alone is my shit |
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Post by Yung Nick on Apr 18, 2019 15:46:38 GMT -5
I'm from southern NH, right on the MA line next to Haverhill. I have a friend who frequents breweries so I've been asking to tag along. Intimidating environment to be in without any knowledge though so that's why i really only go to em with him. That's who I wen't to Kelsen's with. Cool place and good 'za. Going to a brewery with no beer knowledge is like going to your first gig alone..lol going to shows alone is my shit haha i do it too - but there's no doubt that first and second time, especially with hella anxiety, wasn't pleasant but after an hour or two you get comfy. |
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Post by I Gave You Power on Apr 18, 2019 16:41:33 GMT -5
I'm from southern NH, right on the MA line next to Haverhill. I have a friend who frequents breweries so I've been asking to tag along. Intimidating environment to be in without any knowledge though so that's why i really only go to em with him. That's who I wen't to Kelsen's with. Cool place and good 'za. Going to a brewery with no beer knowledge is like going to your first gig alone..lol NH is kind of my blind spot in the Northeast, since their breweries don't tend to distro out of the state. Deciduous makes some real nice sours. Auroral and Lambent are both low-ABV berliner weisses, and while they're a little more tart than that Banded, they're fruited too so that can take some of the edge off. If Hermit Thrush (VT) sends beer your way, Brattlebeer is a great sour. Got a bit of an apple cider/champagne thing going on and it goes down real easy. If Burlington Beer Co. distros to NH, I'd try any of their shit. They do some killer fruited goses and they bottle some nice saisons too. Stoneface in NH also makes some nice berliners. Summer Vice I think was one I remember liking a lot? |
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Post by I Gave You Power on Apr 18, 2019 16:45:39 GMT -5
Also, you'd be well-served if you're that close to the MA line to cross over to a packy on their side of the border. MA has really, really good distro and a lot of great breweries so you'll be able to expand on what you're drinking easily that way.
Also part II: Going to breweries alone would honestly serve you well. Folks in breweries tend to be extremely friendly, and if you tell the bartenders (who in smaller places are often the owners) "hey, I don't know a ton, but I like ________, anything here in particular I should try," they'll be happy to have you try samples, steer you in the right direction, and just overall talk to you about beer.
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Post by cfloyd3 on Apr 18, 2019 20:39:55 GMT -5
fuck ESBs
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Post by cfloyd3 on Apr 18, 2019 20:42:49 GMT -5
If NH beer is your thing, Stoneface, Liars Bench, Decidious, Northwood Brewing, Chapel & Main are all good spots. Smuttynose has had a nice revival with the new owners and the facility is beautiful. Figures, as soon as I quit things got a lot better.
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