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Post by heathenist on Jul 28, 2019 22:55:12 GMT -5
Late to the conversation, but Taxi Driver is a perfect film Hahaha only like 45 years late dude.
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Post by pbcookies on Jul 28, 2019 22:59:47 GMT -5
I meant the conversation about whether films can be perfect, CHIEF.
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Post by pbcookies on Jul 28, 2019 23:00:57 GMT -5
Still Walking (2008) and Burning (2018) also qualify for me
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Post by bentenn on Jul 28, 2019 23:15:04 GMT -5
Absolutely films can be perfect. They donโt even have to be great, but I think thatโs mostly what we mean when saying perfect.
Alien, Jaws, Pulp Fiction, Vertigo, Psycho, Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, No Country 4OM, Schindlers List, Hell or High Water, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween, Last Picture Show, Searchers, Nebraska
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Post by pbcookies on Jul 28, 2019 23:18:13 GMT -5
Absolutely films can be perfect. They donโt even have to be great Curious what you mean by this, could you expand?
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Post by Aaron on Jul 28, 2019 23:19:07 GMT -5
Late to the conversation, but Taxi Driver is a perfect film This post reminded me that Iโm meaning to watch this. I know, embarrassing as hell I havenโt. Meant to watch it tonight after seeing it was on Netflix Thursday and actually totally forgot.
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Post by bentenn on Jul 28, 2019 23:30:22 GMT -5
Absolutely films can be perfect. They donโt even have to be great Curious what you mean by this, could you expand? Just kinda agreeing with what Mick Garris has said about perfect films ... which was something along the lines of he likes his films imperfect because perfect films have nothing to โgrab onto.โ great films are perfect, but perfect films arenโt always great. As long as the director accomplishes what he sets out to do. Like, I think he calls Lifeforce a perfect film, but not a great one. Same with Switchblade Sisters. The conversation was about exploitation films.
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Post by pbcookies on Jul 28, 2019 23:32:12 GMT -5
Late to the conversation, but Taxi Driver is a perfect film This post reminded me that Iโm meaning to watch this. I know, embarrassing as hell I havenโt. Meant to watch it tonight after seeing it was on Netflix Thursday and actually totally forgot. I'm not even as big a Scorcese stan as some, but I unambiguously consider Taxi Driver the greatest American film. Easily.
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Post by pbcookies on Jul 28, 2019 23:38:54 GMT -5
Curious what you mean by this, could you expand? Just kinda agreeing with what Mick Garris has said about perfect films ... which was something along the lines of he likes his films imperfect because perfect films have nothing to โgrab onto.โ great films are perfect, but perfect films arenโt always great. As long as the director accomplishes what he sets out to do. Like, I think he calls Lifeforce a perfect film, but not a great one. Same with Switchblade Sisters. The conversation was about exploitation films. Interesting. That's something I simultaneously agree and disagree with, I think. Do you remember that scene in Dead Poets Society where the class is talking about some formulaic rating system for evaluating poetry? The one where it's something along the lines of "How completely has the poet accomplished his objective, and how artful is that objective?", and then Robin Williams calls the system "excrement" and has the students rip the pages out of their poetry books. I always felt weird about that scene because those are sort of the metrics I use to evaluate art, but on the other hand I also think that scene is making a perfectly valid point. Anyway, criticism is hard, and thoughtful criticism often reveals the constraints of language in terms of encapsulating complete ideas.
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Post by pbcookies on Jul 28, 2019 23:39:55 GMT -5
Nebraska, though??
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Post by bentenn on Jul 28, 2019 23:45:28 GMT -5
Just kinda agreeing with what Mick Garris has said about perfect films ... which was something along the lines of he likes his films imperfect because perfect films have nothing to โgrab onto.โ great films are perfect, but perfect films arenโt always great. As long as the director accomplishes what he sets out to do. Like, I think he calls Lifeforce a perfect film, but not a great one. Same with Switchblade Sisters. The conversation was about exploitation films. Interesting. That's something I simultaneously agree and disagree with, I think. Do you remember that scene in Dead Poets Society where the class is talking about some formulaic rating system for evaluating poetry? The one where it's something along the lines of "How completely has the poet accomplished his objective, and how artful is that objective?", and then Robin Williams calls the system "excrement" and has the students rip the pages out of their poetry books. I always felt weird about that scene because those are sort of the metrics I use to evaluate art, but on the other hand I also think that scene is making a perfectly valid point. Anyway, criticism is hard, and thoughtful criticism often reveals the constraints of language in terms of encapsulating complete ideas. Yes I think Iโm with you too. Great call on that scene!
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Post by jaredfromsubway on Jul 28, 2019 23:46:37 GMT -5
Saw The Mountain yesterday, a bleak look at psychiatry in the 1950's and the effects that it has on masculinity today. Rick Alverson is the American counterpart to Michael Haneke without being a complete imitation of his work. I'm starting to become a big fan of Tye Sheridan, he certainly has range with the type of movies he participates in. Jeff Goldblum tones down his oddball quirkiness and Denis Lavent gives one of his traditionally weird performances.
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Post by pbcookies on Jul 28, 2019 23:49:05 GMT -5
Interesting. That's something I simultaneously agree and disagree with, I think. Do you remember that scene in Dead Poets Society where the class is talking about some formulaic rating system for evaluating poetry? The one where it's something along the lines of "How completely has the poet accomplished his objective, and how artful is that objective?", and then Robin Williams calls the system "excrement" and has the students rip the pages out of their poetry books. I always felt weird about that scene because those are sort of the metrics I use to evaluate art, but on the other hand I also think that scene is making a perfectly valid point. Anyway, criticism is hard, and thoughtful criticism often reveals the constraints of language in terms of encapsulating complete ideas. Yes I think Iโm with you too. Great call on that scene! BEGONE, MR J EVANS PRITCHARD PHD! I bet the director/writer of this movie got some rough criticism and was responding to it, haha
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Post by oldorder1 on Jul 28, 2019 23:49:53 GMT -5
Hail Satan was such a good documentary. Highly recommend.
Sword of Trust was alright. Had itโs moments.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 0:15:26 GMT -5
How is Switchblade Sisters not a great movie???
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 0:52:37 GMT -5
How is Howard the Duck not a great movie???
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Post by lil stormy on Jul 29, 2019 1:04:30 GMT -5
Excellent film. And Taxi Driver is in my top 10 all time, along with In the Heat of the Night, French Connection, Great Escape, Godfather 1 and II, Ace in The Hole, For a Few Dollars More etc. Certain movies I can watch over and over. Like I've said before, a good movie can be like a good record.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 1:13:47 GMT -5
Children of Men is a perfect film imo.
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Post by LOTR roleplay fetishist on Jul 29, 2019 1:42:38 GMT -5
Paddinton 2 is the only perfect movie
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Post by LOTR roleplay fetishist on Jul 29, 2019 1:45:50 GMT -5
I don't know why Once Upon A Time In Hollywood exists
can't really critisize the technical aspects, I loved all of the driving scenes and Leo on the set of Lancer but there's no payoff for the revisionism to be such a crucial part of the story
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 1:52:39 GMT -5
Paddinton 2 is the only perfect movie I'm going to keep reading this as Predator 2 is the only perfect movie.
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Post by LOTR roleplay fetishist on Jul 29, 2019 2:09:10 GMT -5
that clearly says Paddington 2
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 2:48:35 GMT -5
that clearly says Paddington 2 I think we both know what it says....
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Post by SchlongConnery on Jul 29, 2019 2:58:47 GMT -5
I don't know why Once Upon A Time In Hollywood exists can't really critisize the technical aspects, I loved all of the driving scenes and Leo on the set of Lancer but there's no payoff for the revisionism to be such a crucial part of the story I mean what movies have to exist? It was some decent fun with good performances. Just enjoy the ride or don't.
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Post by LOTR roleplay fetishist on Jul 29, 2019 3:08:06 GMT -5
I'd rather actually think about the art I take in
Leo and Brad's relationship and dynamic is great, the Manson stuff derails all that for third act fluff and predictable hyper violence
that ride, as presented, serves no purpose to the actual story of the movie, which I liked a whole lot, mind you! it's too bad that Sharon also has an interesting, worthwhile setup and is subsequently eliminated from the films new resolution
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Post by LOTR roleplay fetishist on Jul 29, 2019 3:14:50 GMT -5
that clearly says Paddington 2 I think we both know what it says.... it says Paddington 2
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Post by MMST3K on Jul 29, 2019 6:53:37 GMT -5
Absolutely films can be perfect. They donโt even have to be great, but I think thatโs mostly what we mean when saying perfect. Alien, Jaws, Pulp Fiction, Vertigo, Psycho, Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, No Country 4OM, Schindlers List, Hell or High Water, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween, Last Picture Show, Searchers, Nebraska Army Of Darkness,Evil Dead 2,I Am The Pretty Little Thing That Lives In The House,Old Boy,Return Of The Living Dead,The Shinning,Full Metal Jacket,A Clockwork Orange,Lake Mungo.
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Post by bentenn on Jul 29, 2019 10:44:11 GMT -5
I don't know why Once Upon A Time In Hollywood exists can't really critisize the technical aspects, I loved all of the driving scenes and Leo on the set of Lancer but there's no payoff for the revisionism to be such a crucial part of the story The ending, or payoff, moved me to two different types of tears. After the big shbang, the beautiful camera pan and the exquisite choice of music and the title screen...I thought was just wonderful.
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Post by redstarohyeah on Jul 29, 2019 10:50:35 GMT -5
I really, really enjoyed Once upon a time in Hollywood.
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Post by LOTR roleplay fetishist on Jul 29, 2019 11:46:41 GMT -5
I don't know why Once Upon A Time In Hollywood exists can't really critisize the technical aspects, I loved all of the driving scenes and Leo on the set of Lancer but there's no payoff for the revisionism to be such a crucial part of the story The ending, or payoff, moved me to two different types of tears. After the big shbang, the beautiful camera pan and the exquisite choice of music and the title screen...I thought was just wonderful.ย and I felt no emotion during the last thirty minutes. The introduction of voiceover and the change in storytelling mode, plus the fact that everything in the climax was so telegraphed, killed the story's momentum. Sharon deserved to play a part in the resolution other than "oh shit we've taken her character this far and I forgot to include her in the actual end of the story maybe if I tell everyone what her and her friends were doing that night it'll seem like there are some stakes".
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