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Post by ☭ Bob Loblaw ☭ on Sept 12, 2019 11:40:09 GMT -5
Dude, that’s legit my favorite movie of all time, dude
It simultaneously lit a fire in my 12 year old brain for both film and science fiction.
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Post by mazzario on Sept 12, 2019 11:45:21 GMT -5
Fucking napalm of a take right there
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 11:51:53 GMT -5
Just asked this in another thread but it seems more at home here. Has anyone seen the 6 hour workprint version of Apocalypse Now? I'm REALLY trying to figure out where I can download that, or at least the 5 hour version. Before anyone asks, no, neither of them are redux. The longest released version is the jawn that's slightly over 3 hours.
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 12, 2019 11:58:12 GMT -5
muchacho, that’s legit my favorite movie of all time, muchacho It simultaneously lit a fire in my 12 year old brain for both film and science fiction. I absolutely love science fiction. I absolutely love Kubrick (was just on here a couple weeks ago talking about what a masterpiece The Killing was). I recognize that the cinematography was 40 years ahead of its time. I wanted it to be this immersive, spellbinding, masterpiece, I did. But I couldn't reconcile that the beauty of what was on screen was incredible and the movie itself still did not remotely grab me. I'm not saying "I don't get why people love it," I'm just saying I don't.
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Post by ☭ Bob Loblaw ☭ on Sept 12, 2019 12:16:53 GMT -5
Would you say perhaps that it deals with philosophical and existential themes that have unfortunately been addressed ad nauseum by sci-fi, movies, comic books, video games, pop culture etc thus making it a bit of a slog to get through in 2019? I personally don’t feel this way at all, but I suppose I could see where you’re coming from, if so. I saw it in imax last year and it still hit as hard as ever.
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Post by Ass Dan on Sept 12, 2019 12:16:54 GMT -5
Finally saw Under the Silver Lake. I liked it but found the ending kinda disappointing. There were zero consequences for the dude being a creep with severe delusions. (Is that just a noir trope?)
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Post by lil stormy on Sept 12, 2019 12:17:36 GMT -5
This is absolutely the first time I've heard anything negative about 2001. From critics, film fanatics... anyone. But to each his own.
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Post by Ass Dan on Sept 12, 2019 12:17:43 GMT -5
I will say the first part of 2001 can put me to sleep quickly if I’m tired.
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Post by heathenist on Sept 12, 2019 12:20:21 GMT -5
2001 really deserves to be seen on the big screen. I saw it in 70mm on a giant screen a few years ago and it totally changed how I felt about the movie. It also helps seeing it in theaters because there are fewer distractions.
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Post by lil stormy on Sept 12, 2019 12:24:49 GMT -5
Would you say perhaps that it deals with philosophical and existential themes that have unfortunately been addressed ad nauseum by sci-fi, movies, comic books, video games, pop culture etc thus making it a bit of a slog to get through in 2019? I personally don’t feel this way at all, but I suppose I could see where you’re coming from, if so. I saw it in imax last year and it still hit as hard as ever. I can only imagine seeing this in 69. Must have been the ultimate cinema experience in history of film.
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Post by ryanakafvckyou on Sept 12, 2019 12:30:13 GMT -5
I really like 2001 a lot but it's not even close to Clockwork Orange or The Shining for me, personally.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 12:33:00 GMT -5
I will say the first part of 2001 will put me to sleep quickly if I’m stoned.
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 12, 2019 12:35:26 GMT -5
Would you say perhaps that it deals with philosophical and existential themes that have unfortunately been addressed ad nauseum by sci-fi, movies, comic books, video games, pop culture etc thus making it a bit of a slog to get through in 2019? I personally don’t feel this way at all, but I suppose I could see where you’re coming from, if so. I saw it in imax last year and it still hit as hard as ever. I'm sure that's part of it. I genuinely can't pinpoint what it is about this that I don't gravitate towards. I've already talked about the cinematography, obviously the acting and direction are incredible and I don't mind that the story and symbolism refuse to hold your hand. It just does absolutely nothing for me beyond, "god, that's a unbelievably beautiful shot." My other takeaway from this is that Kubrick pretty much invented Skype in this movie.
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Post by Ian MacFlai on Sept 12, 2019 12:47:08 GMT -5
Wait, are there other reasons to like movies besides cinematography, acting, direction and storytelling?
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Post by lil stormy on Sept 12, 2019 13:05:34 GMT -5
Wait, are there other reasons to like movies besides cinematography, acting, direction and storytelling? Was just about to ask this exact question.
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 12, 2019 13:36:17 GMT -5
Wait, are there other reasons to like movies besides cinematography, acting, direction and storytelling? Well, Professor Snark, I would say 'was this fun to watch/did you enjoy watching it' is a pretty important reason to like a movie or not. You can appreciate a movie based on artistic and stylistic merit, yet, not like that movie at all. I know this because it's literally what I've said in this thread. Conversely, you can watch a movie -- say, The Wicker Man remake -- and think "this is a failure of a movie in every regard but I still enjoyed watching it."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 13:42:25 GMT -5
Wait, are there other reasons to like movies besides cinematography, acting, direction and storytelling? Well, Professor Snark, I would say 'was this fun to watch/did you enjoy watching it' is a pretty important reason to like a movie or not. You can appreciate a movie based on artistic and stylistic merit, yet, not like that movie at all. I know this because it's literally what I've said in this thread. Conversely, you can watch a movie -- say, The Wicker Man remake -- and think "this is a failure of a movie in every regard but I still enjoyed watching it." I see your Wickerman and raise you "Thankskilling."
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Post by Ian MacFlai on Sept 12, 2019 13:44:31 GMT -5
Wait, are there other reasons to like movies besides cinematography, acting, direction and storytelling? Well, Professor Snark, I would say 'was this fun to watch/did you enjoy watching it' is a pretty important reason to like a movie or not. You can appreciate a movie based on artistic and stylistic merit, yet, not like that movie at all. I know this because it's literally what I've said in this thread. Conversely, you can watch a movie -- say, The Wicker Man remake -- and think "this is a failure of a movie in every regard but I still enjoyed watching it." You got me, I was being snarky... what you said before just made me chuckle. I'm the same way with movies, music, art etc. I totally agree with you on this.
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Post by lil stormy on Sept 12, 2019 13:53:14 GMT -5
I get what you're saying as well. Although more with music than movies. With movies, if i like the acting, the direction, the story and symbolism, and think it's beautifully shot, then i like the movie. With music, i can listen to Dillinger Escape Plan and think, wow, these guys are amazing musicians doing some off the wall time changes... it sucks. Then hear The Germs "Forming" EP and think it's the single most inept thing i've ever heard in both musicianship and songwriting... it rules.
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 12, 2019 14:16:24 GMT -5
I get what you're saying as well. Although more with music than movies. With movies, if i like the acting, the direction, the story and symbolism, and think it's beautifully shot, then i like the movie. I overwhelmingly agree, and 2001 is truly the only example of this, for me, that I can think of. Well, I didn't love the story, but I understood what Kubrick was going for me and I appreciate the idea on merit. Anyhow, this stands out as a huge anomaly for me -- everything was set up for me to love the movie and I just... didn't.
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Post by ☭ Bob Loblaw ☭ on Sept 12, 2019 14:31:47 GMT -5
igaveyoupower, how do you feel about Tarkovsky’s Solaris?
Dude notoriously disliked 2001
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 12, 2019 14:39:01 GMT -5
igaveyoupower, how do you feel about Tarkovsky’s Solaris? muchacho notoriously disliked 2001 I honestly felt kind of similarly about Solaris. Gorgeous, atmospheric, and the story did not even slightly engage me. I couldn't tell you one single thing about the plot or characters in that.
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Post by ☭ Bob Loblaw ☭ on Sept 12, 2019 14:42:26 GMT -5
I love both, but 2001 is of course the better flick.
Stalker > Solaris btw
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 12, 2019 14:44:01 GMT -5
Stalker is like 2 or 3 in my Netflix DVD queue. Very excited for it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 14:53:57 GMT -5
Stalker is fucking great.
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Post by lil stormy on Sept 12, 2019 15:20:38 GMT -5
Love Solaris. The remake was of course God awful and pointless.
Gonna have to check out Stalker.
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Post by Ass Dan on Sept 12, 2019 15:29:12 GMT -5
I wanna watch Solaris after hearing the plot explained, but I’m a philistine who struggles to pay attention to subtitles. Can I watch with English dubbing on Amazon?
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Post by MMST3K on Sept 12, 2019 16:07:05 GMT -5
I really like 2001 a lot but it's not even close to Clockwork Orange or The Shining for me, personal
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Post by LOTR roleplay fetishist on Sept 12, 2019 18:33:59 GMT -5
Finally saw Under the Silver Lake. I liked it but found the ending kinda disappointing. There were zero consequences for the muchacho being a creep with severe delusions. (Is that just a noir trope?) well, it's an attempt at satire that I personally didn't find well thought out or executed, and your confusion as to its authenticity solidifies my feelings
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 12, 2019 22:26:12 GMT -5
Can I make penance here by saying I watched and absolutely loved An American Werewolf in London?
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