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Post by Nuke on Aug 23, 2018 13:35:32 GMT -5
I'm all for Mike Awesome but to act like he was ECW's Bruno Sanmartino is wild. The most memorable part of his two reigns as champ was when a wwe guy showed up to take the belt off of him. No one is saying hes a Sanmartino. Just king of the slam-masters fuckin killing any geek that steps in his way with 4-5 moves and no goofy warm-up shit. Just straight to murder. Fuck yeahhhhhhhh.
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Post by lobsterdog on Aug 23, 2018 13:59:01 GMT -5
Did Sabu ever even have the belt? Maybe in like 94? His aura was not about being the champ at all. Awesome was like a champ's champ, he ruled the company. Sabu was always fun to watch, and legitimately insane. But he never had that world champ vibe at all. Why would a crazy person care about being the world champion? LOL He had the belt twice but also he held the FTW title which was the defacto "real" title for a good chunk of time
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Post by mouthofinfinity on Aug 23, 2018 14:19:44 GMT -5
Awesome is a classic big fish in a small pond for a short period of time. He stood out in ECW, but was just another 6’4” white guy everywhere else when that was the norm. Outside of those Tanaka matches (which were great) he didn’t really do much. I get that he was booked like shit, but all you can do is look at what happened and not what could have.
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Post by billyjackhaynessmile on Aug 23, 2018 14:35:39 GMT -5
That’s a good description of him I think.
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Post by Nuke on Aug 23, 2018 14:38:41 GMT -5
His encounters with Hayabusa were also sick as hell. He had a mid 00's NOAH run and had a fight with Kobashi. He had an AJPW run against Satoshi Kojima too.
I mean I get why a lot of people think he's didnt do any thing but he was only in WCW/WWE for literally 2 years. But its also not like he fell off the face of the earth, he immediately wen't back to Japan and was whipping ass.
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Post by billyjackhaynessmile on Aug 23, 2018 14:50:49 GMT -5
Hate to be the contrarian here but Mike Awesome is not good. Tons of respect for his HGH regimen but like, he’s got the Masato Tanaka matches which are good but all more or less the same, and that’s kind of it. He’s really bad in Memphis and WCW obviously as well. But I don’t know, point me in the direction of the great Mike Awesome performances and I’ll be happy to be wrong. I'm just wondering like, what would make him better? If he was like some submission dude? If he fought from the bottom? Dude was a MONSTER and wrestled like one. The dynamic between him and Tanaka where little ass Tanaka would fire up, hit his rorrring elbow and then HE'D be the one to powerbomb Awesome over the top!?!! That wasn't sweet? Dude had a damn MULLET in the year 2000 and was still MASSIVELY over in New York City! When that dude came out to the ring, looking all pissed off, you KNEW some shit was about to go down. I'd put him at #2 behind Taz for best ECW world champions. Other than that, who really was champ? Justin Credible, Shane Douglas, Raven? None of those guys had matches as good as Awesome. Atleast not in ECW while they were on top. "uhh durrrr but I don't like that style" well what do you like then? Jonathan Gresham? Get outta here Everybody in here's just on their contrarian BS today He was a big guy who could do some cool stuff, that’s about it. He was really awkward and sloppy in the ring, never quite seemed sure of himself. Don’t need him to chain wrestle or be a submission guy or anything since he was a power guy, but the fact that he couldnt do that stuff if he wanted to doesn’t help. Also, he struggled to really convey himself as a huge monster with an aura in ECW, which might sound insane because of how he threw smaller guys like Little Guido and Spike and Tanaka and Kid Kash around, but when you compare him to guys like 911 or Bam Bam in similar positions there’s no contest. He was much better in WCW going toe to toe with like Scatt Steiner. And as I’m typing this I’m convincing myself that he was pretty good in WCW, gimmicks and push aside.
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Post by billyjackhaynessmile on Aug 23, 2018 14:51:55 GMT -5
AND for three in a row, he also had a match against Kobashi in 99, which doesn’t help his case since Kobashi is really carrying him if I remember right.
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Post by 𝕄𝔼👁𝕎𝔽𝕌ℕℂ𝕋𝕀👁ℕ on Aug 23, 2018 16:41:34 GMT -5
I waited years to make this and will not rest until the whole world sees it
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Post by Nuke on Aug 23, 2018 16:56:14 GMT -5
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Post by kerryxking on Aug 23, 2018 16:56:16 GMT -5
WHAT IT DO MEOWFUNCTION
GOOD JOB BUDDY
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Post by 𝕄𝔼👁𝕎𝔽𝕌ℕℂ𝕋𝕀👁ℕ on Aug 23, 2018 19:10:29 GMT -5
Thanks, Kerry
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Post by mouthofinfinity on Aug 23, 2018 19:16:13 GMT -5
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Post by kevin on Aug 23, 2018 19:27:48 GMT -5
A wrestler can be sick and also not be very good.
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Post by lobsterdog on Aug 23, 2018 19:43:50 GMT -5
A wrestler can be sick and also not be very good. Who would you say is the sickest wrestler who is not very good. I have an answer in mind but I want to hear your thoughts first.
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Post by billyjackhaynessmile on Aug 23, 2018 20:02:48 GMT -5
A wrestler can be sick and also not be very good. Who would you say is the sickest wrestler who is not very good. I have an answer in mind but I want to hear your thoughts first. Jimmy Valiant.
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Post by lobsterdog on Aug 23, 2018 20:10:45 GMT -5
Who would you say is the sickest wrestler who is not very good. I have an answer in mind but I want to hear your thoughts first. Jimmy Valiant.
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Post by tandoori jones on Aug 23, 2018 20:27:04 GMT -5
i loved Mike Awesome
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Post by billyjackhaynessmile on Aug 23, 2018 20:27:49 GMT -5
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Post by billyjackhaynessmile on Aug 23, 2018 20:34:31 GMT -5
For reference
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Post by lobsterdog on Aug 23, 2018 20:36:37 GMT -5
you completely misunderstand the meaning of the word "sick" here it seems.
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Post by kevin on Aug 23, 2018 21:08:26 GMT -5
A wrestler can be sick and also not be very good. Who would you say is the sickest wrestler who is not very good. I have an answer in mind but I want to hear your thoughts first. sabu
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Post by lobsterdog on Aug 23, 2018 21:15:52 GMT -5
Who would you say is the sickest wrestler who is not very good. I have an answer in mind but I want to hear your thoughts first. sabu how fucking dare you
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Post by lobsterdog on Aug 23, 2018 21:16:32 GMT -5
this is my answer btw
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Post by kevin on Aug 23, 2018 21:17:43 GMT -5
he sucks but that's what makes him great. botches all the time, no regard for match structure, etc. but he's the sickest wrestler of all time, I could watch him every day. He's probably top 10-20 favorite ever.
But he isn't good.
And if he was good it would actually make him not as good as he actually was.
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Post by kevin on Aug 23, 2018 21:18:28 GMT -5
that's a good answer too cus he truly did suck
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Post by lobsterdog on Aug 23, 2018 21:23:10 GMT -5
He was an awful wrestler and I'd watch every single one of his matches
At least Sabu could do moves.
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Post by billyjackhaynessmile on Aug 23, 2018 21:34:56 GMT -5
you completely misunderstand the meaning of the word "sick" here it seems. I guess you need to define “sick” then.
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Post by lobsterdog on Aug 23, 2018 21:35:58 GMT -5
i just did. if you dont think new jack is sick, this convo aint for you
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Post by billyjackhaynessmile on Aug 23, 2018 21:50:23 GMT -5
New Jack is sick, you stink.
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Post by tomas on Aug 24, 2018 3:57:06 GMT -5
i woke up to a text of kev asking me this and i def said new jack/sabu haha
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