Wizard Rap

[agunrack]

also said they’re finally putting all the KSM and Mgla stuff on spotify

[lowfrequency_version]

youtu.be/m_SK1Gn63f0

Anybody fuck this these/this dude? Probably one of my fave bm releases ever.

I also fuck heavy with Perverted Ceremony. Just heard of them a few months ago but that shit is DIRTY.

[roofies]

The Seattle leg of the Irkallian Oracle/Hellvatron tour got busted up due to s whiney dreaded turd in the scene claiming "they're nazis". So a bud and I booked it in tacoma with Putrid Temple and Hissing. The odd thing is, the only person crying about the show, is someone who is hated, and known to be a piece of shit. So he's playing moral authority by getting shows cancelled. Good way to cover up your own sketchiness. Go fight some actual nazis with political sway, or who threaten people lives,. I'm over people thinking that shutting down obscure shows is somehow fighting fascism. It isn't. Not to mention saying these bands are fascist in the first place is a major stretch.

/rant.

[cammobreed]

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Nov 7, 2018 22:29:13 GMT -5 cammobreed said:

Could never get into this one that much considering how much I like Torn Beyond Reason.  I think it's just the way it's recorded, but it doesn't have the same complete "wall of sound" feel to me TBR does. 

[krujones]

This is one of the worst articles I've seen on one of those bullshit metal sites

www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/nazi-band-gets-exposed-for-trying-to-lie-to-venues-about-their-identity

[roofies]

I just booked Hellvatron after two Seattle shows got shut down. Nice dudes.

Edgy lyrics or not, I dunno how I feel about white dudes targeting a band of Mexicans and shutting them down. Just seems ironic to me in todays political climate.

[krujones]

The worst part of the whole article is how they're convinced Hellvetron is just a fake cover name for Nyog to tour and pull one over on promoters. Lazy shitty "journalism"

[roofies]

"So being the smart business men that the Nazis were, they changed their name to Hellvetron".

lol

[codync]

I mean, shitty editorializing aside and "edgy lyrics" taken at face value, the dudes are still obviously comfortable being featured alongside capital-N nazis on a comp, which seems like more than enough reason not to book them. Do y'all just not care or what? Like I fuck with Disma but I'm not gonna buy their records... Then again that doesn't really matter because I still buy shit from their label. Genuinely curious.

[krujones]

It is literally impossible to listen to black metal and avoid all association with NS. Even the bigger mainstream bands have connections to NS. Nyog has made it clear they're anti all Abrahamic religions. It's ok for bands to have songs about murdering Christians but as soon as Jews or Muslims are brought up it becomes an issue which is very weird

[roofies]

I genuinely dont care. Going after "nazis" in black metal is futile and worthless. Plus they're not nazis. I dont care who they were on a comp with, or who they talked to one time, or who they listened to, or played with. If you're digging that deep to accuse someone of being a nazi, you're bored and not actually doing shit to fight real nazis.

[slander]

Out and out Nazi bands I can understand not being booked for shows. They dug that hole for themselves and its completely justified no one would want them playing shows. I like GBK but obviously their views are abhorrent and I could only imagine the kind of knuckleheads that would come out of the wood work for one of their shows.

But barring someone like Marduk for playing shows just seems counter productive. Sure they've got some edgy shit going on but you're probably just pissing off metalheads who just want to see their favorite and are way more likely to be pushed towards more hard-right views because of 'successful jewish women' impinging on their fun.

I mean Darby Crash said some pretty stupid shit regarding fascism back in the day, it'd be interesting to see if these people would turn a blind eye to that if he was still alive and touring today.

[Brah-lie]

Been spinning a lot of black metal lately- perfect for this time of year and ironically darkness helps bypass seasonal depression.

Top 3 at the moment are:
Burzum
Nocturnal Mortum
Bathory

[agunrack]

black metal is about hate. i'm not down with that stuff, but I'm also not surprised when it's present. if you cant understand that then you should fuck off

Nov 20, 2018 15:28:29 GMT -5 krujones said:

It is literally impossible to listen to black metal and avoid all association with NS. Even the bigger mainstream bands have connections to NS. Nyog has made it clear they're anti all Abrahamic religions. It's ok for bands to have songs about murdering Christians but as soon as Jews or Muslims are brought up it becomes an issue which is very weird

I've always been fascinated by this

[Radiation]

Nov 20, 2018 15:22:38 GMT -5 codync said:

I mean, shitty editorializing aside and "edgy lyrics" taken at face value, the dudes are still obviously comfortable being featured alongside capital-N nazis on a comp, which seems like more than enough reason not to book them. Do y'all just not care or what? Like I fuck with Disma but I'm not gonna buy their records... Then again that doesn't really matter because I still buy shit from their label. Genuinely curious.

I am in this camp. I don't think it is impossible or futile to be a responsible metal fan. Obviously any musician can have connections to a spectrum of problematic ideologies or people and it's impossible to really know it all... but just use some discretion like you would for anything else. Most good black metal is not even political in content, so I can't see why it is necessary to accept it as part of the subculture without any push back in 2018.

I think there is a difference between hating on religious minorities vs. Christianity, historically and culturally. But you can be wholly anti-religion without being ignorant. I personally thought the Norwegian black metal anti-Christianity was subversive. I am not really here for church burning or murder but it was an interesting cultural reaction.

[krujones]

It's impossible to listen to black metal and disconnect from the hate and extreme anti-religious sentiment. Obviously you can avoid blatant NS bands with swazis and pro Nazi propaganda on their art or in their lyrics, which is something I do but the entire genre is built on hate and supremacy so if thats something you can't hang with the genre is just not something for you which is fine because there are plenty of other genres of metal to choose from

[Osama Vinladen Jiménez López]

I liked their statement

[roofies]

Nov 21, 2018 10:27:14 GMT -5 Osama Vinladen Jiménez López said:

I liked their statement

?

[Osama Vinladen Jiménez López]

Nov 21, 2018 13:58:06 GMT -5 roofies said:

Nov 21, 2018 10:27:14 GMT -5 Osama Vinladen Jiménez López said:

I liked their statement

?

www.brooklynvegan.com/hellvetron-show-cancelled-with-laura-jane-graces-help-but-not-in-nyc/

[krujones]

lol hell yeah

You morons can kiss our Mexican asses.

[codync]

Nov 21, 2018 10:19:35 GMT -5 krujones said:

It's impossible to listen to black metal and disconnect from the hate and extreme anti-religious sentiment. Obviously you can avoid blatant NS bands with swazis and pro Nazi propaganda on their art or in their lyrics

I agree that there's a point at which untangling problematic associations in black metal is futile. I don't have a problem with anti-religious sentiment in general, but the anti-abrahamic catch-all would be more palatable if they would just, you know, refuse to put their music on a comp with nazis. That's like the lowest bar to clear. Obviously the band doesn't give a shit. But I'm sure they also wouldn't give a shit if nazis were coming out to their shows and I don't really see anything wrong with patrons of whatever random venue trying to do something about that. 

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Nov 21, 2018 14:18:25 GMT -5 krujones said:

lol hell yeah

You morons can kiss our Mexican asses.

I also think it’s hilarious their response (same with Taake’s) is “you bitch ass keyboard warriors didn’t do anything” as if black metal musicians are known for being tough intimidating individuals. You fools are wearing robes during your set not basketball shorts and jerseys. The literal equivalent of “say that to my face and not on the internet.”

[roofies]

Genuinely curious as to the last time anyone actually saw a legitimate nazi, or a fucking proud boy for that matter, at a black metal show.

Not saying they dont exist or dont attend shows. But I wonder if people actually think there's packs of nazis out there attending shows with 30 people paid, recruiting kids on how to make pipe-bombs to fight the zionists. I have legitimate never seen a nazi at a BM show. Seen them at punk and hardcore shows. But not a BM show. Maybe I haven't attended the right ones.

[Osama Vinladen Jiménez López]

Def saw some sketchy people at a GBK show a couple years ago. Stoked I’ve seen them and nyog

[krujones]

Nov 21, 2018 17:50:18 GMT -5 @oldorder said:

Nov 21, 2018 14:18:25 GMT -5 krujones said:

lol hell yeah

You morons can kiss our Mexican asses.

I also think it’s hilarious their response (same with Taake’s) is “you bitch ass keyboard warriors didn’t do anything” as if black metal musicians are known for being tough intimidating individuals. You fools are wearing robes during your set not basketball shorts and jerseys. The literal equivalent of “say that to my face and not on the internet.”

To be fair outside of rap black metal is the only other music genre where i can name multiple convicted murderers and felons. Theres some sketchy people in that scene

[Radiation]

Nov 21, 2018 18:11:37 GMT -5 roofies said:

Genuinely curious as to the last time anyone actually saw a legitimate nazi, or a fucking proud boy for that matter, at a black metal show.

Not saying they dont exist or dont attend shows. But I wonder if people actually think there's packs of nazis out there attending shows with 30 people paid, recruiting kids on how to make pipe-bombs to fight the zionists. I have legitimate never seen a nazi at a BM show. Seen them at punk and hardcore shows. But not a BM show. Maybe I haven't attended the right ones.

Go to shows in Tampa lol

[roofies]

Nov 21, 2018 21:50:30 GMT -5 Radiation said:

Nov 21, 2018 18:11:37 GMT -5 roofies said:

Genuinely curious as to the last time anyone actually saw a legitimate nazi, or a fucking proud boy for that matter, at a black metal show.

Not saying they dont exist or dont attend shows. But I wonder if people actually think there's packs of nazis out there attending shows with 30 people paid, recruiting kids on how to make pipe-bombs to fight the zionists. I have legitimate never seen a nazi at a BM show. Seen them at punk and hardcore shows. But not a BM show. Maybe I haven't attended the right ones.

Go to shows in Tampa lol

Florida, goes without saying

[crawlingcosmichorror]

Nov 21, 2018 9:26:23 GMT -5 agunrack said:

black metal is about hate. i'm not down with that stuff, but I'm also not surprised when it's present. if you cant understand that then you should fuck off

Nov 20, 2018 15:28:29 GMT -5 krujones said:

It is literally impossible to listen to black metal and avoid all association with NS. Even the bigger mainstream bands have connections to NS. Nyog has made it clear they're anti all Abrahamic religions. It's ok for bands to have songs about murdering Christians but as soon as Jews or Muslims are brought up it becomes an issue which is very weird

I've always been fascinated by this

It's because Christians are the majority in the west so it's fine. You know, fuck the white patriarchy and all that.
They don't see it as attacking a bunch of religious lunatic bigots, they see it as white males picking on people who already face discrimination. Nevermind the fact that if the Ayatollah had his way, all the PC intersectional feminists would be clapped in irons and stoned to death in the public square. The PC crowd still see a band attacking Islam and they think of the victims of post 9/11 hate crimes, and not Dubai exploiting foreign workers the way they do, the Saudi royal family having journalists chopped up or the Taliban absolutely brutalizing girls in Afghanistan.

[roofies]

This is dorky as fuck, but hilarious. New statement from the Nyog/Hellvatron. Its sorta long.

SPOILER: Click to show

DECLASSIFIED:
From the shadow network we bring recent developments from the daemonic war against the Jehovian Godhead Program and its parasitic soulless subordinates. Within the last month, both NYOGTHAEBLISZ and HELLVETRON have, in the face of opposition stemming from weakling thought-policing mundanes suffering delusions of moral/ethical grandeur, defiantly initiated and victoriously completed numerous psycho-spiritual assaults across American soil wherein all Black Lodge operational objectives were met. However, the overall success of the aforementioned campaigns is not the topic of this transmission. Instead, the focus itself shall be on identifying and ousting the current enemy forces by exposing their deceptive tactics of emotive-thought control, media manipulation, and cultural subversion. We present the following intel to you, our co-conspirators in predatory spirituality and militant diabolism, to process and disseminate with extreme prejudice against those who serve the Global Magian Complex within the failing Tetragrammaton Simulation. The following and most recent fraudulent socio-politically charged accusations/far-left propaganda has been broadcast in an effort to derail our Dark Force Operation.

Misinformation 1: NYOGTHAEBLISZ IS A ‘WHITE SUPREMACIST’ AND NATIONAL SOCIALIST BLACK METAL BAND.
Misinformation 2: ANTICHRIST KRAMER IS A ‘WHITE SUPREMACIST’ AND A NATIONAL SOCIALIST.
Facts:
1. NYOGTHAEBLISZ is a SATANIST faction. The O:.S:.I:.’s branch of SATANISM is both a spiritual and martial philosophy based on but not limited to cultivation of primal instincts, revival of particular ancestral practices, staunch individualism, self preservation, predatory spirituality, dark ecology, higher misanthropy, esoteric (apolitical) neo-fascism theory, sinistral alchemy, and daemonic ascendency. This is in direct contrast to National Socialism which is an inherently collectivist humanitarian movement based on the preservation of a particular race and/or nationality. There IS a race we hate above all - AND THAT IS THE HUMAN RACE.


2. NYOGTHAEBLISZ is both ANTI-ABRAHAMIC and ANTI-RELIGIOUS. ANTI-ABRAHAMISM does not equal NATIONAL SOCIALISM/NAZISM. There is no race, creed, color, religion and/or theistic organization that is exempt from scrutiny, critique, and/or attack; spiritual (r)evolution discriminates against none.


3. NYOGTHAEBLISZ is of Mexica/Native American descent. Aside from LHP, its members privately engage in Meso-American, Far Eastern, and several other non-Caucasian esoteric practices and traditions. Moreover, all vestments worn by NYOGTHAEBLISZ have been modeled after medieval occultist/indigenous ceremonial garments/capirotes and NOT after the Ku Klux Klan (as has been erroneously circulated by the false media and its failed pseudo-journalists). In addition, former label boss ANTICHRIST KRAMER has not only knowingly supported this but has also remained a close ally of our faction for nearly two decades. This fact renders allegations of “racism” as null.


4. ANTICHRIST KRAMER has done vocal attacks in the Pali language for KONFLICT,
a band which he sighned and introduced to a wider audience (as he has done with NYOGTHAEBLISZ, HELLVETRON, IRREVERENT, and REEK OF THE UNZEN GAS FUMES in the past - all of whom are non-white and all of with which he has formed a long-standing personal alliance with). This fact again renders all misleading allegations of “racism” as null and void.
5. ANTICHRIST KRAMER and his labels SSP/DAR have released all variations of the extreme underground, be it Black and Death Metal, Industrial/Noise/PE, Hardcore/Punk,Dark Ambient/Drone/Doom and everything in between from extreme religious standpoints to extreme political standpoints. Freedom of expression, artistic creation, aesthetic exploration, and philosophical development are of the highest importance and WILL NEVER be censored by ANTICHRIST KRAMER and/or any of his labels because this is the TRUE spirit of the outlaw underground.


6. KYLE of KEP PRODUCTIONS (the alleged “nazi” organizer of Vengeance Fest) is of African American descent and an associate of both NYOGTHAEBLISZ and INTOLITARIAN. Logically and irrefutably, any and all charges of “racism” must be immediately dismissed at this point. In short, all individuals accusing the above-mentioned parties of “bigotry” have cherry picked baseless tidbits of information which best suited their false narrative with the intention of not only aimlessly persecuting but irrevocably ruining those they have deemed as politically incorrect, pop culturally dissident and/or unfit for ma$$ consumption.


7. SMEAR CAMPAIGNS, HALF TRUTHS, AND DISTORTION OF INFORMATION ARE THE PREFERRED WEAPONS OF THE MANIPULATOR. All allegations and attacks made towards the above mentioned parties have stemmed from the mentally infirm far-left proponents of successful jewish woman-(N)PC culture who utilize journalistic sensationalism, virtue signaling, logically fallacious apparatuses (i.e. ad hominem attacks, appeal to emotions, false equivalence), libel and slander, covert political agendism, and outdated and/or non-credible sources as the basis for their cultural subversion. They have used these tactics to convince the docile masses that YOU ALL are incapable of rationally distinguishing between right and wrong. Essentially, they are now deciding for you. Will you, the daemonic wolves of lawlessness, continue to grant them this power over you and your feral pack? If so, you are spineless, neutered, and equally to blame and your extinction nears!
So by these facts and these facts alone the proliferators of untruth MUST be identified and judged as enemies of not only our black lodge, but of YOU ALL, our co-conspirators who are independent, free-thinking, autonomous, individualistic, and self-directed. They are NOT the gatekeepers of free thought; they are NOT the guardians of morality/ethicality. They CANNOT and WILL NOT censor Dark Art because it is gifted to us from The Void and not theirs to judge or suppress. Hold the enemies of our lawless movement accountable and resist them by any and all means possible. Start by immediately boycotting the following parasites - METAL INJECTION, METALSUCKS, BROOKLYN VEGAN, and last but not least - VICE, NOISEY, and KIM KELLY.
THE LINE BETWEEN ART AND WAR HAS BEEN ERASED.