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Post by disrupticon on Nov 23, 2018 1:01:57 GMT -5
That comment section was a thing of beauty.
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Post by roofies on Nov 23, 2018 2:33:53 GMT -5
Yea it was a wonderful mess on all sides. I wonder why it was all taken down.
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Post by forestpoetry on Nov 23, 2018 13:00:46 GMT -5
Genuinely curious as to the last time anyone actually saw a legitimate nazi, or a fucking proud boy for that matter, at a black metal show. Not saying they dont exist or dont attend shows. But I wonder if people actually think there's packs of nazis out there attending shows with 30 people paid, recruiting kids on how to make pipe-bombs to fight the zionists. I have legitimate never seen a nazi at a BM show. Seen them at punk and hardcore shows. But not a BM show. Maybe I haven't attended the right ones. because you're oblivious. go to any bigger show in the tristate area or any of the finnish band shows.
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Post by roofies on Nov 23, 2018 15:31:59 GMT -5
why would I go to a show in the tristate area?
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Post by forestpoetry on Nov 23, 2018 16:43:35 GMT -5
why would I go to a show in the tristate area?
now who's being obtuse. I mean in a super 'liberal' area there are large contingents of nazis that come out to larger metal shows, and also those of bands with known associations. what aren't you understanding? it's fine that you don't care about any of this, just stop fronting about other people caring.
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Post by roofies on Nov 23, 2018 16:54:14 GMT -5
Nothing gets more liberal that Seattle, Portland and Olympia. All three cities have a pretty abundant amount of metal shows, and I have not encountered any nazis. I have seen dudes wearing sketchy merch, but are loners who probably cast a spell of losing their virginity before the show.
if things are different in the tristate area, that sucks. Its weird you say I dont care when I simply made an observation, and then said "I could be wrong" while looking for examples from others.
From what it sounds like, the east coast has an issue with nazis at shows.
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Post by forestpoetry on Nov 23, 2018 18:02:17 GMT -5
Nothing gets more liberal that Seattle, Portland and Olympia. All three cities have a pretty abundant amount of metal shows, and I have not encountered any nazis. I have seen dudes wearing sketchy merch, but are loners who probably cast a spell of losing their virginity before the show. if things are different in the tristate area, that sucks. Its weird you say I dont care when I simply made an observation, and then said "I could be wrong" while looking for examples from others. From what it sounds like, the east coast has an issue with nazis at shows. this is super disingenuous or you totally lack self awareness. you post something about this basically every day for the last however many years. also there are tons of sketchy shitty white nationalists in the pnw, who are you kidding? again, whatever, you get sad when your cosplaying dorks get confused for the real thing (which is weird because its unclear where the cosplaying starts and stops, for example there's a dude here that was a 'sketchy black metal guy' who now runs an explicitly white power label that sells tons of white supremacist literature. he's also 100% jewish.) When you have dudes who explicitly identify as incels doing mass shootings the 'haha nerd virgin' insult seems to have a lot less teeth.
Again, don't confuse your own obliviousness for objective reality.
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Post by roofies on Nov 23, 2018 20:09:25 GMT -5
Oh my god. Chill the duck out you upset little baby. Nazis do not show up at shows in the PNW. Inever said they don’t exist. Fucking hell, go suck on Stalin’s rotting cock you gremlin.
I just booked a “Nazi” band the area, guess what, no Nazis showed up.
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Post by svejk on Nov 23, 2018 21:06:17 GMT -5
A little off topic but saw a dude sieg heil pre stage dive and immediately get clocked in the face and dip at cro mags/eyehategod at the roxy a week ago
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Post by resurrection6communi on Nov 24, 2018 0:13:42 GMT -5
I just want to pitch in that, having attended the Nyogthaeblisz show in LA, majority of the audience wasn't exactly the Edward Norton type. Those fools were outnumbered by all the brown and black folk kicking it in the back. I don't listen to them much but they did blow me away. They were spooky. They pull off the death-squad vibe complete with ghosted out reverb vocals and AK-47 drums. It's just not my thing much. Is anybody into Shataan? I love the demo and first album in particular but even my homies into Black Twilight are more or less indifferent. They stand out to me and I want to find similar shit.
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Post by Radiation on Nov 24, 2018 0:21:43 GMT -5
Roofies will spend the rest of his days posting his vague conservative mental gymnastics on this messageboard
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Post by roofies on Nov 24, 2018 2:16:38 GMT -5
Roofies will spend the rest of his days posting his vague conservative mental gymnastics on this messageboard Nazis...they just flock to black metal shows, and anyone who disagrees is a vague conservative. Got it.
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Post by agunrack on Nov 24, 2018 9:21:11 GMT -5
part of me can see what he’s trying to get at. a “nazi” these days is someone who voted for donald trump.
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Post by crawlingcosmichorror on Nov 24, 2018 14:50:16 GMT -5
They don't come out to shows here. There are people who have some right wing tendencies who go to shows for sure, but then again, there are probably more people on that tip in my office than in the scene.
The real WP crowd do not come to shows. There are absolutely a ton of turd reichy white power losers in the PNW but those Atomwaffen dudes don't want the kind of exposure that coming to a black metal show entails.
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Post by disrupticon on Nov 25, 2018 14:54:24 GMT -5
Thank god black metal has people that got into 3 years ago defending it, I just don't know what we'd do otherwise.
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Post by forestpoetry on Nov 25, 2018 16:06:01 GMT -5
Thank god black metal has people that got into 3 years ago defending it, I just don't know what we'd do otherwise.
yeah if you're annoyed by try-hard posers and actual nazis you must have only got into it three years ago. fuck outta here with that shit.
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Post by roofies on Nov 25, 2018 16:12:41 GMT -5
I dunno whats worse, being involved in a genre that apperently attracts nazis in droves, or seeing nazis at shows and not having the balls to do shit about it.
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Post by forestpoetry on Nov 25, 2018 16:16:01 GMT -5
I dunno whats worse, being involved in a genre that apperently attracts nazis in packs, or seeing nazis at shows and not having the balls to do shit about it.
so now there are no nazis involved in black metal? am I understanding your post correctly? also not taking the bait here, you know that's goofy as fuck.
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Post by roofies on Nov 25, 2018 16:18:41 GMT -5
Where did you get that. yes, gust as there are nazis who are involved in punk and hardcore. But the whole nazis thing in black metal is extremely over exaggerated. Immensely exaggerated. And it's fucking exhausting.
I have no doubt seen more sketchy people at punk and hardcore shows than I ever have at black metal shows. Im just not getting the current targeting of the genre. Especially in the PNW where nazis imply do not come out to black metal shows.
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Post by krujones on Nov 25, 2018 16:20:39 GMT -5
Its way more of a thing in Europe anyway. The one dude running a NSBM label in the US got outted a couple years ago and lost his job as a LAWYER haha
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Post by forestpoetry on Nov 25, 2018 16:47:53 GMT -5
Where did you get that. yes, gust as there are nazis who are involved in punk and hardcore. But the whole nazis thing in black metal is extremely over exaggerated. Immensely exaggerated. And it's fucking exhausting. I have no doubt seen more sketchy people at punk and hardcore shows than I ever have at black metal shows. Im just not getting the current targeting of the genre. Especially in the PNW where nazis imply do not come out to black metal shows. yeah for sure, definitely super common for really popular bands in punk/hardcore during the heyday to share members with explicitly fascist bands. again, super disingenuous and you know it. I don't know why people like you can't just admit you like it because of the corny edgelord shit.
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Post by roofies on Nov 25, 2018 16:56:31 GMT -5
I'm arguing with someone who thinks there's an epidemic of nazis in black metal.
I have said my say. Nazis exist, some nazis like black metal. There isnt an epidemic, and there aren't any more than have always been associated with an obscure genre. if you think otherwise, you are delusional. We are having shows shut down quite frequently here in Seattle, by people who dont even attend most black metal shows, who think nazis are taking over the genre. It is 100% out of touch with reality. Period. Im done.
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Post by disrupticon on Nov 25, 2018 16:58:16 GMT -5
Thank god black metal has people that got into 3 years ago defending it, I just don't know what we'd do otherwise.
yeah if you're annoyed by try-hard posers and actual nazis you must have only got into it three years ago. fuck outta here with that shit.
I was talking about Roofies. There's greater threats to world peace than a Marduk show with 200 chudly morons attending to be sure, but get real. A guy that thought Volahn sounded like Deafheaven having such strong apinions on the matter is just so utterly laughable to me. I do agree that if you're playing around with imagery and associations you don't understand or agree with you deserve what you get. I don't care enough to defend it.
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Post by forestpoetry on Nov 25, 2018 17:15:39 GMT -5
yeah if you're annoyed by try-hard posers and actual nazis you must have only got into it three years ago. fuck outta here with that shit.
I was talking about Roofies. There's greater threats to world peace than a Marduk show with 200 chudly morons attending to be sure, but get real. A guy that thought Volahn sounded like Deafheaven having such strong apinions on the matter that he's standing up for actual nazis is just so utterly laughable to me.
ah. gotcha. yeah I mean now that for some reason I've been pushed into flexing I own a label and my first black metal band's demo came out more than 15 years ago blah blah blah. I've been around for awhile. There are two kinds of black metal posers basically: roofies and medusa. glad only one has stuck around.
I agree, the marduk thing is pretty goofy to me and just muddies the waters when actual ns shit is floating around. how quickly we forget that all the white power labels from the 90s heyday of the shitty nazi skinhead 'hatecore' scene dumped basically all their money into nsbm. I'm still utterly baffled by people who front about being evil and powerful whining about their shitty band not being able to play. also still don't understand how anyone could possibly listen to GBK, that shit is so bad. at least listen to good ns stuff for fucks sake.
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Post by roofies on Nov 25, 2018 17:36:59 GMT -5
My provocative post about Volahn at the peak of their hype has nothing to do with my apinions about Nazis in black metal. Apperently you guys are seeing Nazis at shows and doing nothing about it other than directing your energy at me. I find that pretty spineless. When we see a hint of Nazis in my “scene”, we do something. Partially why I’ve had death threats from people in atomwaffen. They started appearing and we did something. So maybe you guys should step up your passive aggressive game.
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Post by disrupticon on Nov 25, 2018 17:44:42 GMT -5
I don't think that was the crux of the point, but keep talking.
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Post by roofies on Nov 25, 2018 17:55:19 GMT -5
I honestly don’t even know your point. You read metal sucks articles and think Hellvatron are Nazis? What’s the point?
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Post by forestpoetry on Nov 25, 2018 17:58:49 GMT -5
I honestly don’t even know your point. You read metal sucks articles and think Hellvatron are Nazis? What’s the point?
you're the only one talking about the metal sucks article. the point is you're a poser and you bend over backwards to defend corny bullshit but then at the same time want cred for being antifascist, a position you make at least five posts a day disagreeing with. you and medusa deserved each other.
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Post by roofies on Nov 25, 2018 19:04:52 GMT -5
I never claimed I’m anti fascist. I just stand up to bullshit when I see it unlike your scared hypocritical ass.
Also where are you getting I’m into the boneheaded aspect of black metal. That makes no sense. NSBM is terrible and I’m not defending Nazis. I’m saying their presence in black metal is highly exaggerated. You must be high as fuck.
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Post by roofies on Dec 1, 2018 6:40:19 GMT -5
Kind slept on this, but been jamming it alot recently. Sick band.
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