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Post by agunrack on Jan 27, 2023 16:43:00 GMT -5
Enforced always was like the lil bro of power trip the lil bro that plays fast and nonstop slayer riffs |
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Post by crobssssss on Jan 27, 2023 18:06:13 GMT -5
Who has got the lead on a ticket to TUI, on Sunday?!
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Post by RIP RIDE!!! on Jan 28, 2023 8:42:46 GMT -5
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Post by Radiation on Jan 28, 2023 10:38:55 GMT -5
Power Trip's songwriting chops are way higher than that band come on now... no disrespect to them
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 12:49:53 GMT -5
Anyone holding an extra ticket for tui tonight
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Post by emerald_wizard on Jan 28, 2023 13:01:37 GMT -5
I am once again asking for an extra ticket to mindforce tonight. Gonna just head over there after work and see if I can score an extra from someone outside if not.
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Post by crobssssss on Jan 28, 2023 20:30:31 GMT -5
Shout out the no echo Facebook group getting me a ticket for tui tomorrow. Currently at mindforce, and just made it for seed of pains last two songs. Itβs a hardcore weekend, baby.
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Post by Cloud chasing the Ben diagram on Jan 29, 2023 0:02:49 GMT -5
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Post by throwdemgunz on Jan 30, 2023 10:13:32 GMT -5
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Post by jaredfromsubway on Jan 31, 2023 14:29:00 GMT -5
Features members of GUNN and Rolex
FFO: Old school OC punk (Agent Orange, The Adolescents)
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Post by killedbyboard on Jan 31, 2023 14:38:43 GMT -5
Enforced always was like the lil bro of power trip the lil bro that plays fast and nonstop slayer riffs I feel like you have said this multiple times in different threads, but Enforced doesn't play any faster than Power Trip. They are both equally chuggy/moshy/groovy and fast. They both rule. |
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Post by nhf on Jan 31, 2023 15:45:47 GMT -5
new All Out War stream on Revolver mag.
AOW has been a top 3 favorite of mine for 25 years. Theyβve put out absolute ass beaters one after another.
But Iβm not really feeling this one. Maybe Iβm only half way paying attention because Iβm busy but on first listen it seems like thereβs too many blast beats and not enough breakdowns(I know that sounds gay)
Hope it grows on me the more I listen to it. AOWF FAOW
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Post by anointed on Jan 31, 2023 23:24:33 GMT -5
not sure where to post this so perhaps this will be best suited here:
when did acacia strain get accepted by the greater hardcore scene? unless i've been living under a rock this entire time i've always took them as a myspace deathcore/scene band. now i'm regularly seeing their name attached to hardcore bands and gigs, they're playing shows with hardcore bands, and modern hardcore bands are also co-signing them?
(i am saying this without having ever heard a single note from this band but they're like emmure, no?)
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Post by ππππππππππππ on Jan 31, 2023 23:26:49 GMT -5
the singer? has been talking up legit hardcore bands for awhile and all the goofy acacia strain fans from way back have grown up into regular degular hardcore kids
for further examples, see: elysia
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Post by anointed on Jan 31, 2023 23:30:38 GMT -5
somehow this is all terror's fault
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Post by ππππππππππππ on Jan 31, 2023 23:49:33 GMT -5
i don't know what they sound like but i think i saw them once with terror and hatebreed. i left mid-set to go look at hot sauce at the grocery store a few blocks away (straight edge activities)
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Post by orbit on Jan 31, 2023 23:50:58 GMT -5
not sure where to post this so perhaps this will be best suited here: when did acacia strain get accepted by the greater hardcore scene? unless i've been living under a rock this entire time i've always took them as a myspace deathcore/scene band. now i'm regularly seeing their name attached to hardcore bands and gigs, they're playing shows with hardcore bands, and modern hardcore bands are also co-signing them? (i am saying this without having ever heard a single note from this band but they're like emmure, no?) Acacia has been taking out smaller hardcore acts out for over a decade or so now, plus I think they sort of fell out of the circle of metal/deathcore bands that would become big hits on those giant flyover state monster energy drink festivals and got more widely adopted by the "metal"/normie hard rock crowds. Emmure's first album sounds like Acacia Strain but everything after that has been probably some of the earliest flirtations of nu-metal revival and adding shitty panic chords and edm to heavy music. |
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Jan 31, 2023 23:58:47 GMT -5
not sure where to post this so perhaps this will be best suited here: when did acacia strain get accepted by the greater hardcore scene? unless i've been living under a rock this entire time i've always took them as a myspace deathcore/scene band. now i'm regularly seeing their name attached to hardcore bands and gigs, they're playing shows with hardcore bands, and modern hardcore bands are also co-signing them? (i am saying this without having ever heard a single note from this band but they're like emmure, no?) I was never a fan of acacia strain and youβre right there does seem to be some revisionist history on them. Actually they had beef with Emmure back in 2014 I believe but yes in terms of emmure these two bands are pretty terrible. Acacia Strain would be on bills with bands like Job For A Cowboy or If Hopes Dies back in the day. Never my scene, but again Iβm more punk orientated and these bands are metal kill everyone in the room. |
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Post by Cloud chasing the Ben diagram on Feb 1, 2023 0:05:53 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding me of the it dies today Depeche Mode cover. Some of this songs were also pretty chunky and could def pass off as ignorant hardcore today if it wasnβt for the weak ass vocals.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 0:09:05 GMT -5
I think a lot of it has to do with deathcore like that being more accessible for this or that so now you have more βhardcore kidsβ who know Acacia Strain or Emmure than Amdi Petersens Armi or Skitkids. The name of the game is accessibility, not nuance. There are kids who literally REFUSE to discover music that isnβt on Spotify now.
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Post by Cloud chasing the Ben diagram on Feb 1, 2023 0:10:18 GMT -5
And Iβm pretty sure the first JFAC ep still rips, definitely a genre defining album before it got commodified and over saturated.
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Post by anointed on Feb 1, 2023 0:19:24 GMT -5
part of it is that there aren't really any true, definable ethos within hardcore anymore other than, i don't know... acceptance of minority groups. if drain or mindforce got asked to open a tour package for lorna shore and carnifex they'd both likely do it in a heartbeat. bands like kublai khan straight up probably use the same guitar tuning and production style as the acacia strain so for hxc kids the lines are blurred, for better or for worse.
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Post by Cloud chasing the Ben diagram on Feb 1, 2023 0:35:39 GMT -5
I mean were their ever? The lines have been blurred since the beginning. I think about all the weird shit they were doing in the 90s And then yeah the early 00s were even weirder, trustkill and victory were putting out all kinds of stuff. Hare Thorne heights was on the same label as Hatebreed, and the trustkill roster was all over the fucking place and that was 20 years ago. So like idk this is just gen zβs version.
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Post by anointed on Feb 1, 2023 0:56:31 GMT -5
sure, but in mid to late 00s bands and scenes were able to get away from a lot of the trendier "heavy" and "aggressive" music that was aired on fuse TV and embedded on a scene kids myspace page, and began tirelessly restructuring hardcore back to its roots; or at least closer to them. you'd think labels and promotors would've learned their lesson, sadly it's looking like that shit is rearing its ugly head again.
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Post by johnny two cool on Feb 1, 2023 1:36:14 GMT -5
that shit sucks who cares
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Post by anointed on Feb 1, 2023 2:03:11 GMT -5
you're right
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Post by crookedwizard on Feb 1, 2023 2:32:24 GMT -5
Itβs page 5 of the 2023 hardcore thread and people are posting about the acacia strain? π€¨
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Post by Cloud chasing the Ben diagram on Feb 1, 2023 8:34:58 GMT -5
okay then back to 2023 hardcore
Chain Gang from Florida
FFO: spinkicking as many times as possible like youβre a shaolin monk, felony assault, flat brims, queens style murder muzik.
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Post by Ted Mujint on Feb 1, 2023 8:54:32 GMT -5
I don't think the current state of poseur-acceptance is comparable to the '90s or '00s. Hatred for poseurs in the '90s reached parodic levels of corniness. SLC Punk anyone?
These days because of social media, you don't have to dress like the subcultural group you most identify with anymore. That means that Gen Z kids are not punks or hardcore kids or whatever. They're ~*~InDiViDuAlS~*~* so they don't really commit. The same kids are punks, metalheads, deathcore kids, hardcore tough guys, crusties, goths, and hip hop heads all at once. I listen to all of that shit(except deathcore/metalcore), but I've always been a punk rocker first and foremost. I do, however, appreciate skinhead culture because it has remained distinct and retains its attitude.
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Post by Cloud chasing the Ben diagram on Feb 1, 2023 9:00:30 GMT -5
I donβt really care, sometimes I do just to be a dick on the internet, but itβs all whatever. Let more kids go to shows and see what itβs about, more often than not they dense nuggs of fat buds themselves out. Thereβs only so much room for tender queers and tik tok punks.
Someone once said: hardcore is for anyone but itβs not for everyone and thats the realest shit i ever heard.
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