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Post by anointed on May 26, 2024 19:18:38 GMT -5
i see that twitching tongues was mentioned on this page so i’m just here to say they still suck ass
edit: mentioned on the previous page. fuck it, the post stays…
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Post by Aaron on May 26, 2024 19:21:01 GMT -5
the vitus shit truly sucks. some of the funnest shows i've played and gone to were in that room, but we knew for a minute now it was cooked.
the dude that facilitated this shit sucks so much. i want to believe there will be comeuppance, but the universe seemingly rarely provides it. it's also wild as hell that vitus operated as long as they did without being entirely legit. takes just one shithead with a vendetta to ruin literally anything.
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Post by Aaron on May 26, 2024 19:21:58 GMT -5
there's always kingsland jokes
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Post by floorpunchchalie on May 26, 2024 20:45:47 GMT -5
i see that twitching tongues was mentioned on this page so i’m just here to say they still suck ass edit: mentioned on the previous page. fuck it, the post stays… People were REALLY into them last night
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Post by anointed on May 26, 2024 20:47:03 GMT -5
people were also REALLY into bombing hiroshima and nagasaki, doesn't mean it was good
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Post by floorpunchchalie on May 26, 2024 20:55:48 GMT -5
WHO IS THIS PREACHER MANNNNNNNN
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Post by stiffbreeze on May 26, 2024 21:28:00 GMT -5
not exactly the right thread, but saw a band tonight open with a lumpy and the dumpers cover. They later did pipeline so I guess it evens out
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Post by durangoderanged on May 26, 2024 22:46:31 GMT -5
admittedly I don't go to nearly as many shows as I did before moving west but barricades and livenation? I haven't seen any of that and besides the gen z fashion sense being made specifically to confuse me and make me feel uncomfortable the younger ppl have been good to have around. they're supportive, always excited, push moshing can be really cute and endearing and they're ATMs so touring bands do well Same here, the kids by me seem to be genuinely enthusiastic about the music albeit knowing WAY less about the genre. I try not to be too judgmental but I have noticed when my generation were their age we were going way deeper into the hardcore rabbit hole at a quicker rate. I guess this is a product of the streaming age. there's always kingsland jokes The few times I've been to that venue I was hot as fuck. Place needs better AC.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 22:55:36 GMT -5
I have noticed when my generation were their age we were going way deeper into the hardcore rabbit hole at a quicker rate. I guess this is a product of the streaming age. the name of the game now is consumption so getting kids into cutty bands doesn't serve anyone's interests. in the streaming age, you need the listeners listening to you as often as possible and keeping shit top of mind at all times. because the competition is not for the dollar, but bandwidth, all bands now become competitors. its a really cynical model but here we are. you could say the same about swifties or kanye stans or those "music is my life but are actually hard-rocking about music" people.
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Post by anointed on May 26, 2024 23:22:22 GMT -5
on one hand, i think it’s great that newer fans of hardcore are more enthusiastic about modern bands vs. our generation which seemed at times “too cool” for that, insofar as not stopping to appreciate it while it was happening. while on the other, it’s certainly mind-boggling to me that one can be seemingly sooo passionate about hardcore yet not be a “student” of the scene, and consume all the older stuff as much as humanly possible. i still recall a time where you’d be laughed out of the scene if you didn’t know a straight ahead cover when it was happening. now i don’t think any of the new jacks even gives a shit about that band or nerding out over some crucial chaos WNYU radio set…
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Post by Ian MacFlai on May 26, 2024 23:30:29 GMT -5
there's always kingsland jokes they try lol you know how all those adjacent blocks are sound stages? before it became a venue that was just a spot where teamsters and grips would drink during lunch - i was there one day and a dude i worked with told me they had hardcore shows in the back room (pre-stage) and i was like wtf? then he showed me a video of some sparsely-attended beatdown gig with people just throwing themselves around the room
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 23:34:00 GMT -5
on one hand, i think it’s great that newer fans of hardcore are more enthusiastic about modern bands vs. our generation which seemed at times “too cool” for that, insofar as not stopping to appreciate it while it was happening. while on the other, it’s certainly mind-boggling to me that one can be seemingly sooo passionate about hardcore yet not be a “student” of the scene, and consume all the older stuff as much as humanly possible. i still recall a time where you’d be laughed out of the scene if you didn’t know a straight ahead cover when it was happening. now i don’t think any of the new jacks even gives a shit about that band or nerding out over some crucial chaos WNYU radio set… i don't think its mutually exclusive though. posi numbers, chaos in tejas, early sound and fury, new yorks alright were all 90% current / new bands and kids were losing their minds over what they were seeing while also being intensely versed in history and cutty stuff. i dont think new kids now care enough to learn anything and theres no gatekeeping to check them on their lack of eduation. more kids now know about deftones than they do anti-cimex. its disgraceful.
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Post by Frank Rizzo on May 26, 2024 23:37:24 GMT -5
On one hand I'd argue that some kids are probably prevented from giving a shit about a lot of hardcore of old. I mean these kids lived through COVID. You can have someone googling old Cro-Mags, Sick of it All, Burn and instead of getting music you're getting articles about the nonsensical conspiracy theories, transphobia, and all the other fucked up shit a lot of the older heads are now spewing.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 23:39:06 GMT -5
yeah theres zero excuse for a hardcore kid ever talking about slipknot more than the cro-mags.
straight up undesirable behavior.
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Post by anointed on May 26, 2024 23:41:29 GMT -5
i’ve seen cro-mags upward of fifteen times. the kids that got into hardcore five years ago probably haven’t even seen them once, and likely don’t care to ever see them. not sure if that has anything to do with politics, but they’d rather see drain for the umpteenth time. that’s their cro-mags now.
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Post by anointed on May 26, 2024 23:51:09 GMT -5
i love killing time but i can see how someone who got into hardcore in the late 2010s/early 2020s would think it sounds like boomer music
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Post by Ian MacFlai on May 26, 2024 23:51:33 GMT -5
there were always people like that tho - who got into hardcore thru like killswitch engage, and they liked pro stuff like terror or madball but wouldn't know who breakdown was
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Post by Frank Rizzo on May 26, 2024 23:54:21 GMT -5
there were always people like that tho - who got into hardcore thru like killswitch engage, and they liked pro stuff like terror or madball but wouldn't know who breakdown was Yeah this definitely isn’t anything new. I think it just seems more common now because you’re not just seeing it in person but also on social media as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 23:56:43 GMT -5
there were always people like that tho - who got into hardcore thru like killswitch engage, and they liked pro stuff like terror or madball but wouldn't know who breakdown was yeah and those kids were false too
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Post by Ian MacFlai on May 27, 2024 0:01:03 GMT -5
no doubt - i met another dude once years back who told me he grew up in the boston hardcore scene and then looked at me with a blank face when i mentioned SSD or Slapshot or even fucking Have Heart - then he started talking about Comeback Kid and i didn't realize until last year that that band is from Canada lol
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Post by anointed on May 27, 2024 0:04:29 GMT -5
hardcore is over forty years old now. in the same way a lot of the 90s alt rock acts were name checking shit like black flag, minutemen, flipper, etc over the stones, the who, and pink floyd, is the same way bands now are name checking, i don’t know… trapped under ice, rotting out, and backtrack.
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Post by floorpunchchalie on May 27, 2024 0:11:22 GMT -5
Whenever someone talks about hardcore I can usually tell if they are actively going to shows. The guy who said he grew up in Boston hardcore and didn’t know those three bands tells me he was just saying it to appear cool.
If you’re from Boston you should know Slapshot, Reach The Sky, Righteous Jams, the Rival Mob. Just like if you’re from Philly you should know Ink & Dagger, Kid Dynamite, Blacklisted, All Else Failed, Horror Show, and more recently Scarab and Soul Glo
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Post by BlindJusticeIntoLastWarning on May 27, 2024 0:34:58 GMT -5
Saw stiff little fingers last night at a live nation venue. It ruled.
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Post by 𝕄𝔼👁𝕎𝔽𝕌ℕℂ𝕋𝕀👁ℕ on May 27, 2024 0:36:29 GMT -5
the problem with these dipshit kids is they think hardcore is a genre of music you listen to and not a thing that ruins your life
it's surface level appreciation at best, and people are so fucking soft that any attempt to explain the culture they're dipping into gets labeled gatekeeping despite the attempts to open the fucking gates
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Post by amplifiedohms on May 27, 2024 0:49:45 GMT -5
Hardcore kids not knowing anti-cimex is definitely nothing new. It's kind of always been a combination of impressing the old heads and bullying that made people look into the first wave stuff. I remember my band opened for outbreak one time, we did hard times and ready to fight and no one knew them. The singer of outbreak wen't off on the whole city for being posers and the next time we played everyone knew every single word.
But now the kids couldnt care less what the old heads think and I'm willing to bet if I was in their shoes I wouldnt be giving weight to some 60 year old's borderline qanon band. Like it was said earlier, we didn't have access to JJs or Mina's stream of consciousness social media feed. Negative Approach is still drawing a massive crowd and I bet at least half is 25 and under.
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Post by Jon Joseph in a golf cart. on May 27, 2024 0:52:43 GMT -5
Maybe, just maybe, it’s not a age thing. But rather that some bands and some scenes just attracts idiots and assholes?
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Post by yosupbro on May 27, 2024 1:15:53 GMT -5
Nah fuck zoomers
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Post by likeweeds on May 27, 2024 1:53:56 GMT -5
There's also the possibility that the little ones have been exposed to some of the classic bands who are way past their prime and should have had the grace to fuck off and die years ago. When's the last time Discharge, Madball, AF, Slapshot or Sick Of It All put put a good record?The Gorilla Biscuits reunion has been going on for 18 years for fuck sakes. Maybe they need to let their glory days go and quit taking up space. (Negative Approach and Infest are excluded).
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Post by ☭ Bob Loblaw ☭ on May 27, 2024 2:13:49 GMT -5
the problem with these dipshit kids is they think hardcore is a genre of music you listen to and not a thing that ruins your life it's surface level appreciation at best, and people are so fucking soft that any attempt to explain the culture they're dipping into gets labeled gatekeeping despite the attempts to open the fucking gates I agree with this. When I got into this shit yeears ago I had an unquenchable thirst that was only satisfied by digging into record bins, downloading music, going to shows, booking shows, talking to like minds etc etc. it’s a fucking illness that you either have or do not have. It sticks with you for your entire life in varying degrees and if it doesn’t then maybe it isn’t for you.
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Post by anointed on May 27, 2024 2:15:21 GMT -5
metallica’s unfortunately still going but that’s not stopping anyone from checking out ride the lightning. slayer just reunited but that shouldn’t stop some thirteen year old from listening to reign in blood for the first time and rightfully making it his entire personality for the next four years…
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