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Post by hAloween h2o fan on May 27, 2024 6:28:57 GMT -5
The classic stuff that's poorly recorded and sloppy is part of the charm so anyone who doesn't like it can literally go fuck themselves whether they're 19 or 42
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Post by crimsonotter on May 27, 2024 7:16:38 GMT -5
On the topic of the younger kids not checking out older kids because of politics and what not….
They’re the same damn people going to these sex pest ridden, warped tour revival fests.
They only care if in certain circumstance
The majority of them truly don’t care to get versed in the history, because they know they’ll be gone soon enough and onto the next thing.
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Post by BlindJusticeIntoLastWarning on May 27, 2024 7:54:07 GMT -5
The majority of hc kids have always been tourists just passing through. You think the % of lifers was larger at the in effect af/soia show, the big middlesex shows, or posi numbers? The scene has always been made up of people who get the bug for a minute then move on.
Who cares if some poser pretends to like an old core record during their short stay?
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Post by xMOOKAIx on May 27, 2024 8:30:20 GMT -5
Im one of the good ones
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Post by xMOOKAIx on May 27, 2024 8:35:31 GMT -5
I know a lot of younger people who listen to all the classic american and english hardcore but could not name a 90s australian hardcore band other than like mindsnare
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Post by crimsonotter on May 27, 2024 9:09:02 GMT -5
The majority of hc kids have always been tourists just passing through. You think the % of lifers was larger at the in effect af/soia show, the big middlesex shows, or posi numbers? The scene has always been made up of people who get the bug for a minute then move on. Who cares if some poser pretends to like an old core record during their short stay? I don’t think it’s their presence that bothers anyone, it’s their attitudes and demeanor towards everything. A lot of the new kids are nice as hell and doing great things, but You can’t recommend older bands or tell certain old stories to some of them without cries of gatekeeping. So many of us got into and would see crazy shit and think “that’s wild, I want to do it” and now it’s “this shouldn’t be allowed” Sometimes change is good, sometimes it’s bad.
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Post by throwdemgunz on May 27, 2024 9:12:07 GMT -5
I actually do think there’s a decent subset of young kids that are definitely digging into the vaults and knowing their history. I think that streaming and even YouTube has definitely made that easier and you could argue whether that’s good or bad, but I see it manifesting through bands citing shit like Japanese beatdown, H8000, Denied, Merauder live sets where they played songs that were never recorded, Terror Ave, etc as canon.
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Post by mouthofinfinity on May 27, 2024 9:22:40 GMT -5
Let the flyby night kids have their big room corporate sponsored hardcore. The real autists will find their way to the basements and message boards.
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Post by crobssssss on May 27, 2024 9:35:22 GMT -5
Let’s let the rockers rock.
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Post by concealer on May 27, 2024 9:39:28 GMT -5
It’s such a glut and swell of attention that hardcore has right now that it’s obviously going to show an overrepresentation of the passing tourist types because grossly there’s more than there ever have been. But there always is and was a strong contingent of that. I feel like it’s buried beneath that glut but there’s probably a good amount who have the bug in a serious way and dig into things more deeply, albeit via different avenue than we may have been used to (YouTube vs record store, Spotify vs messageboard, etc).
There will be a ton of horrible young bands and plenty of good well beneath the surface as time goes on. Just gotta filter out the crap and move on, things never stay as they were and people find out about stuff they don’t “deserve” to and that’s just how it goes with time. Just as punk/hardcore was an alternative to the mainstream there will be an alternative to the mainstream of “punk/hardcore” doing worthy stuff.
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Post by concealer on May 27, 2024 9:40:04 GMT -5
The kids suck, the kids are alright.
The old crowd sucks, the old crowd is alright.
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Post by concealer on May 27, 2024 9:43:42 GMT -5
Also motherfuck that dude re: Vitus if it’s legit done. Absolute bitch shit
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Post by floorpunchchalie on May 27, 2024 9:54:26 GMT -5
Also it’s common knowledge that faces come and go in hardcore. That’s not a zoomer thing that’s a life thing.
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Post by anointed on May 27, 2024 10:07:28 GMT -5
I know a lot of younger people who listen to all the classic american and english hardcore but could not name a 90s australian hardcore band other than like mindsnare brother i couldn’t name you five australian people
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Post by wedealinlead on May 27, 2024 10:09:43 GMT -5
Anthony, Greg and Maury from the Wiggles, Angus and Malcolm Young.
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Post by floorpunchchalie on May 27, 2024 10:21:28 GMT -5
Steve Irwin RIP
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Post by floorpunchchalie on May 27, 2024 10:21:47 GMT -5
Crocodile Dundee
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Post by nastyy on May 27, 2024 10:23:30 GMT -5
Mfs get a Monday off work and waste it talkin about normo scene tourists or whatever the king of underground called em
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Post by anointed on May 27, 2024 10:23:34 GMT -5
i was stuck on russell crowe and steve irwin then i just gave up and wen't to get breakfast
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Post by concealer on May 27, 2024 10:25:13 GMT -5
Mfs get a Monday off work and waste it talkin about normo scene tourists or whatever the king of underground called em I’m actually at work getting paid to do it
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Post by Aaron on May 27, 2024 10:26:15 GMT -5
Mfs get a Monday off work and waste it talkin about normo scene tourists or whatever the king of underground called em I’m still in bed ripping wildly percussive farts and reading Board This is the life tbh
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Post by ssdecongest on May 27, 2024 10:29:40 GMT -5
I know a lot of younger people who listen to all the classic american and english hardcore but could not name a 90s australian hardcore band other than like mindsnare Not Rupture? Who cares?
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Post by ssdecongest on May 27, 2024 10:32:07 GMT -5
I'm with the kids on this one. Hardcore has been gotten to different levels of "mainstream" since its inception, and its going to crash/burn/go further underground/get popular again just like every time in the past. A lot of the NYHC records we dick ride were released on major labels and had videos played on MTV which in addition to getting on big metal tours was how tons of old fucks like me ever got into it in the first place (and for every Marauder or Strife, there was still an H20). Either way, the lifers will always be around.
Obviously getting sponsored by Taco Bell and shit is corny as fuck, but so is the world. I was able to be a fuck up and still get out relatively unscathed and in a good position; I've come to realize a lot of people younger than me don't have that luxury. How much does it take to go on tour now?
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Post by Osama Vinladen Jiménez López on May 27, 2024 10:39:35 GMT -5
Whatever Chalie said, I think the opposite. Hope that clears things up 👍
Fuck the troops. Thanks team 👍
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Post by throwdemgunz on May 27, 2024 10:54:07 GMT -5
Mfs get a Monday off work and waste it talkin about normo scene tourists or whatever the king of underground called em Day off work is more time to post
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2024 10:57:16 GMT -5
Mfs get a Monday off work and waste it talkin about normo scene tourists or whatever the king of underground called em you know good and goddamn well what im king of
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Post by floorpunchchalie on May 27, 2024 11:22:41 GMT -5
Now I did have younger people say to me and I think this applies to some on this board more so James K but why do you care so much???
You can for sure use that line when it comes to talking about people entering hardcore. The music is still going to be there, and the venues are still going to be there. Let the young people go buckwild for Knocked Loose at a 2000 capacity venue and you the hardcore purist can stick to seeing Electric Chair in a basement with 100 punk vest wearing degenerates.
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Post by nastyy on May 27, 2024 11:25:43 GMT -5
Knocked loose fans : young people Electric chair fans : degenerates
Lock the thread
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Post by floorpunchchalie on May 27, 2024 11:27:19 GMT -5
Knocked loose fans : young people Electric chair fans : degenerates Lock the thread Cool your tits guy that probably listens to Warthog
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Post by nastyy on May 27, 2024 11:30:15 GMT -5
Knocked loose fans : young people Electric chair fans : degenerates Lock the thread Cool your tits guy that probably listens to Warthog gottem!
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