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Post by variousmaterials on Sept 25, 2024 7:13:49 GMT -5
On the other hand, you could be like Vegas and have no real QB options, but probably scrape enough wins to make it difficult to draft "the guy" (which is so far from a guarantee, I hope people will start to realize this). Even the reclamation projects that appear to be working don't really solve the problem. Darnold, Geno, Baker, Dalton (lol), etc. all look good where they are, but you can't honestly say that you think any of those guys are likely SB winners without fully stacked teams built around them.
In reality, most brains have been broken by Mahomes coming up while Brady was still winning. There was no downtime from the Brady days for people to remember that Brady/Manning level QB play is the exception, not the rule, and, therefore, shouldn't be the expectation. Trevor didn't deserve that contract, but Baalke sucks so it is what it is. I'd still rather blow everything up and restart with TLaw at the helm than cut bait (they can't anyway) and pray that overdrafting Quinn Ewers or something works out and get sucked back into that miserable cycle.
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Post by variousmaterials on Sept 25, 2024 7:14:17 GMT -5
Fuuuuuck, not a fresh page again smdh
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Post by Reasonablepizza518 on Sept 26, 2024 8:32:30 GMT -5
I'm not ready to completely give up on Lawrence. He was great in 2022 and decent last year.
The Dolphins stole the week 1 game in Miami, Cleveland controlled the game early and they could never get their footing, then they got smoked in Buffalo by a better team.
They've still got a lot of winnable games on their schedule. If they can upset Houston on Sunday that could be an inflection point in their season.
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 26, 2024 8:36:39 GMT -5
Ehhh, 0-3 teams are like 4-162 or some shit when it comes to making the playoffs. They could salvage a .500 season or something I guess but they're cooked cooked.
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Post by youthofwhodey on Sept 26, 2024 8:37:43 GMT -5
Trevor Lawrence has all the ability in the world, but he's not a gamer. I truly don't think he loves football as much as the other elite QB's. He hit his peak at Clemson.
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 26, 2024 8:42:30 GMT -5
On the other hand, you could be like Vegas and have no real QB options, but probably scrape enough wins to make it difficult to draft "the guy" (which is so far from a guarantee, I hope people will start to realize this). Even the reclamation projects that appear to be working don't really solve the problem. Darnold, Geno, Baker, Dalton (lol), etc. all look good where they are, but you can't honestly say that you think any of those guys are likely SB winners without fully stacked teams built around them. In reality, most brains have been broken by Mahomes coming up while Brady was still winning. There was no downtime from the Brady days for people to remember that Brady/Manning level QB play is the exception, not the rule, and, therefore, shouldn't be the expectation. Trevor didn't deserve that contract, but Baalke sucks so it is what it is. I'd still rather blow everything up and restart with TLaw at the helm than cut bait (they can't anyway) and pray that overdrafting Quinn Ewers or something works out and get sucked back into that miserable cycle. Well Vegas is uniquely dumb and wen't after James Garropolo instead of drafting a QB and then were dumb again in signing dirtbag James Garropolo instead of drafting a QB. They'd have been in position to do so. Darnold is way too early to say and Dalton will settle into his familiar (middling) groove but I do think Geno and Baker are working. Both teams need more help from their defenses and skill position players outside their respective A1s (DK, Evans) but if James G, Foles and Goff can get to SBs in ideal conditions those guys certainly can too. So yeah, like you said they'd need stacked teams, but so does anyone who isn't QB'd by Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Stafford or (maybe) Burrow. IDK what I'd have done w/ T-Law if I was Baalke, this isn't a Daniel Jones situation, and I do probably think he made the right decision.... but 'right' and 'good' don't always overlap.
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Post by krujones on Sept 26, 2024 8:44:37 GMT -5
Someone did a side by side comparison of Daniel Jones and Trevor Lawrence and their stats across the board are almost identical. But no one gives him the shit Daniel Jones gets on regular basis. I don't know if its a NY vs. Jacksonville market thing or because Lawrence has long blonde hair and looks like a woman or what
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Post by I Gave You Power on Sept 26, 2024 9:13:50 GMT -5
For sure the hair. And that NFL fans, at large, do not care what is going on in the state of Florida.
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Post by youthofwhodey on Sept 26, 2024 9:16:26 GMT -5
I don't think Floridans (outside Miami) really care what's going on in the NFL in Florida. Jags and Bucs seem to come second to most people in that state behind the Gators and Seminoles from my understanding.
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Post by theboobox on Sept 26, 2024 9:45:56 GMT -5
I feel like so many teams are being pressured to give guys coming off these rookie deals historic money out of fear of having to start the process over again even if the return they've gotten from them has been mediocre at best. That's why I was happy the Bears decided to dump Fields, even if he becomes a good starter in the league and Caleb Williams isn't what he's hyped to be I would have not been comfortable throwing $200 million+ and being in the situation the Jags and Giants are currently in Been talking about that with my friends league since last Sunday. To see Sam Darnold being on a 3-0 team and Baker Mayfield finally finding his groove after going through like 4 teams is wild compared to Daniel Jones who is fucking clueless out there
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Post by variousmaterials on Sept 26, 2024 10:13:11 GMT -5
On the other hand, you could be like Vegas and have no real QB options, but probably scrape enough wins to make it difficult to draft "the guy" (which is so far from a guarantee, I hope people will start to realize this). Even the reclamation projects that appear to be working don't really solve the problem. Darnold, Geno, Baker, Dalton (lol), etc. all look good where they are, but you can't honestly say that you think any of those guys are likely SB winners without fully stacked teams built around them. In reality, most brains have been broken by Mahomes coming up while Brady was still winning. There was no downtime from the Brady days for people to remember that Brady/Manning level QB play is the exception, not the rule, and, therefore, shouldn't be the expectation. Trevor didn't deserve that contract, but Baalke sucks so it is what it is. I'd still rather blow everything up and restart with TLaw at the helm than cut bait (they can't anyway) and pray that overdrafting Quinn Ewers or something works out and get sucked back into that miserable cycle. Well Vegas is uniquely dumb and wen't after James Garropolo instead of drafting a QB and then were dumb again in signing dirtbag James Garropolo instead of drafting a QB. They'd have been in position to do so. Darnold is way too early to say and Dalton will settle into his familiar (middling) groove but I do think Geno and Baker are working. Both teams need more help from their defenses and skill position players outside their respective A1s (DK, Evans) but if James G, Foles and Goff can get to SBs in ideal conditions those guys certainly can too. So yeah, like you said they'd need stacked teams, but so does anyone who isn't QB'd by Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Stafford or (maybe) Burrow. IDK what I'd have done w/ T-Law if I was Baalke, this isn't a Daniel Jones situation, and I do probably think he made the right decision.... but 'right' and 'good' don't always overlap. Exactly what I'm saying. Manning/Brady straight into Mahomes has deluded many folk into thinking that that caliber of QB is a reasonable expectation to have. So a kid like TLarry who comes out heralded as "generational" is doomed to be maligned by the masses unless he plays at the highest possible level from day one, which is an unreasonable ask. Also notable, every one of those QBs has had the same head coach since being drafted. Trev is on the path to his third and had the absolute worst possible scenario for his first year HC. Overall, what I'm getting at is that there is no magic answer available for "the best move" going forward because NFL QB is such a fucking conundrum. All in all, I'll take TLarry's traits (which are definitely top half of the league) over scrambling in draft and FA again. Give me Ray Agnew coupled with Ben Johnson plzzzz. Also, whodey, the south cares more about college than NFL, not just FL. Panthers, Titans, Falcons, TB, Jagz.
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Post by smashedbox on Sept 26, 2024 10:29:14 GMT -5
My buddy's wedding down in louisiana was an lsu cake and I asked his dad what if the cake filling was crimson tide, he said he'd flip the table over. College football reigns supreme in the south and I love it.
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Post by youthofwhodey on Sept 26, 2024 10:30:33 GMT -5
Darnold did this shit when he was with the Panthers where he started 4-0 then fell off a cliff. We'll see if falls off again or has finally progressed.
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Post by bonerinsweatpants on Sept 26, 2024 11:18:59 GMT -5
darnold is somehow younger than burrow. thought darnold was in the league for over 10 years
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Post by youthofwhodey on Sept 26, 2024 11:27:27 GMT -5
Burrow was in college for a long time. Lamar is younger and has two more years experience.
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Post by 2006 Gucci Mane on Sept 26, 2024 20:32:00 GMT -5
This looks like a 2K anklebreaker animation.
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Post by krujones on Sept 26, 2024 21:42:37 GMT -5
Nabers is already a bonafied #1. All 3 of the top WRs look legit so far
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Post by Wayne Woodrow Hayes on Sept 28, 2024 8:44:33 GMT -5
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Post by Reasonablepizza518 on Sept 28, 2024 9:18:57 GMT -5
I don't mind the two MNF games but I'm especially grateful this week because that first game is such garbage.
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Post by Aaron on Sept 28, 2024 9:29:40 GMT -5
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