☭POLITICS☭: Election Season Hell

[internetbully]

Defs curious what his posting style would be like off meth

[throwdemgunz]

I’m glad our government is finding time for regime change in addition to tirelessly working for a ceasefire or whatever

www.axios.com/2024/10/04/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-new-leader-us

[Ass Dan]

There is no regime in Lebanon.

[Sorley Boy]

Honestly Lebanon is never going to be functional while there's an islamist militia that's more powerful than the army.

[tomservo]

Regime change in Israel now

[itii]

Love to see erik pivot after growing tired of the stayfrosty bit

[throwdemgunz]

Oct 5, 2024 10:14:17 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

Honestly Lebanon is never going to be functional while there's an islamist militia that's more powerful than the army.

That may be the case but there is no reason to believe that the US meddling there will improve the situation.

[Sorley Boy]

Oct 5, 2024 12:04:44 GMT -5 throwdemgunz said:

Oct 5, 2024 10:14:17 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

Honestly Lebanon is never going to be functional while there's an islamist militia that's more powerful than the army.

That may be the case but there is no reason to believe that the US meddling there will improve the situation.

Agreed, just saying it would be preferable if the people are able to elect someone more capable than Mikati.

[johnny two cool]

Join me, crustache!

Rorty is a self-proclaimed postmodernist bourgeois liberal (“Postmodernist Bourgeois Liberalism,” ORT). His liberalism is postmodernist because it does not depend on a metanarrative according to which liberalism is the realization and embodiment of transcultural and ahistorical conceptions of rationality and morality. Rather, its institutions and practices are the lucky result of a contingent history. His liberalism is bourgeois because this contingent history includes economic conditions that make these institutions and practices possible (see section 3.7).

Thus, his liberalism is a pragmatic liberalism. He is skeptical of political thought purporting to uncover hidden, systematic causes for injustice and exploitation, and on that basis proposing sweeping changes to set things right. (ORT Part III; EHO; CIS Part II; AOC). Rather, liberalism involves piecemeal reforms advancing economic justice and increasing the freedoms that citizens are able to enjoy. It is also a romantic liberalism. He follows Judith Shklar in identifying liberals by their belief that “cruelty is the worst thing we do,” and contends it is our ability to imagine the ways we can be cruel to others, and how we could be different, that enables us to gradually expand the community with which we feel solidarity (CIS, 146).

It is possible, Rorty thinks, to be both a liberal and an ironist. The ironist, a figure Rorty contrasts with “the metaphysician,” is a central character in CIS. The metaphysician is someone who adheres to the “common sense” view that it is possible to discover the true nature of reality or the true nature of the self, whereas the ironist is someone who understands that any particular description of reality or of the self that she might adopt will be adopted only for contingent reasons, often having to do with her culture and upbringing. Because she recognizes that the descriptions she uses are optional, she is often on the lookout for new ways of describing things, particularly when she “has radical and continuing doubts about the final vocabulary she currently uses” (CIS, 73). Because she believes “there is nothing beyond vocabularies which serves as a criterion of choice between them” (CIS, 80), these doubts can only be resolved by comparing alternative possible vocabularies. Thus, she seeks out different and compelling descriptions that she can adopt or incorporate into her own final vocabulary.

Rorty’s liberal ironist, recognizing – indeed, affirming – the contingency of her own commitments, is explicitly ethnocentric (ORT, “Solidarity or Objectivity”). She accepts that bourgeois liberalism has no universality other than the transient and unstable one which time, luck, and discursive effort might win for it. Recognizing the contingency of these values and the vocabulary in which they are expressed, while retaining the commitments, is the attitude of the liberal ironist (CIS, essays 3,4). Liberal ironists have the ability to combine consciousness of the contingency of their own evaluative vocabulary with a commitment to reducing suffering – in particular, with a commitment to combatting cruelty (CIS, essay 4, ORT, Part III).

[throwdemgunz]

Oct 5, 2024 12:09:56 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

Oct 5, 2024 12:04:44 GMT -5 throwdemgunz said:

That may be the case but there is no reason to believe that the US meddling there will improve the situation.

Agreed, just saying it would be preferable if the people are able to elect someone more capable than Mikati.

Sure but I can’t imagine a scenario in which the US wouldn’t heavily interfere in an election, especially given the circumstances there is no way the Lebanese are going to elect someone who is aligned with US/Israeli interests.

[tomservo]

sorry man the mysterious international Jew will MAKE you and the subhuman savages you represent bow to the woke mind virus

[throwdemgunz]

George Soros kind of rocks tbh, I wish he actually did control the world

[jimmyspudboy]

Who do I have to talk with to get some of those Soros bucks? I'm ready to sell my vote to the highest bidder.

[Percussionist Foster Grant]

Oct 5, 2024 12:58:47 GMT -5 throwdemgunz said:

George Soros kind of rocks tbh, I wish he actually did control the world

He’s like the Kendrick Lamar of billionaires.

[throwdemgunz]

Oct 5, 2024 13:03:19 GMT -5 Percussionist Foster Grant said:

Oct 5, 2024 12:58:47 GMT -5 throwdemgunz said:

George Soros kind of rocks tbh, I wish he actually did control the world

He’s like the Kendrick Lamar of billionaires.

Is Soros brat??!!

[tomservo]

Oct 5, 2024 13:08:36 GMT -5 throwdemgunz said:

Oct 5, 2024 13:03:19 GMT -5 Percussionist Foster Grant said:

He’s like the Kendrick Lamar of billionaires.

Is Soros brat??!!

yes

[johnny two cool]

George Soros is probably one of earth’s least nefarious oligarchs. He still shouldn’t exist, but you know

it’s hard to hate him when Peter Thiel exists

[j (in a good way)]

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[Sorley Boy]

Oct 5, 2024 12:51:48 GMT -5 throwdemgunz said:

Oct 5, 2024 12:09:56 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

Agreed, just saying it would be preferable if the people are able to elect someone more capable than Mikati.

Sure but I can’t imagine a scenario in which the US wouldn’t heavily interfere in an election, especially given the circumstances there is no way the Lebanese are going to elect someone who is aligned with US/Israeli interests.

I don't know. Lebanon is a diverse country and Hezbollah was never that popular. I would think it's less popular now that they're getting bombed into the ground thanks to Hezbollah's pointless fireworks displays.

[internetbully]

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Je suis Crustache

[internetbully]

Oct 5, 2024 14:58:23 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

Oct 5, 2024 12:51:48 GMT -5 throwdemgunz said:

Sure but I can’t imagine a scenario in which the US wouldn’t heavily interfere in an election, especially given the circumstances there is no way the Lebanese are going to elect someone who is aligned with US/Israeli interests.

I don't know. Lebanon is a diverse country and Hezbollah was never that popular. I would think it's less popular now that they're getting bombed into the ground thanks to Hezbollah's pointless fireworks displays.

Yeah that’s why they’re getting bombed into the ground for sure

[Sorley Boy]

Oct 5, 2024 15:42:34 GMT -5 internetbully said:

Oct 5, 2024 14:58:23 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

I don't know. Lebanon is a diverse country and Hezbollah was never that popular. I would think it's less popular now that they're getting bombed into the ground thanks to Hezbollah's pointless fireworks displays.

Yeah that’s why they’re getting bombed into the ground for sure

If you're not going to do anything meaningful, why give Israel an excuse? 

[meatballmaniac]

Money-changing globalist sentence spice

[throwdemgunz]

Oct 5, 2024 14:58:23 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

Oct 5, 2024 12:51:48 GMT -5 throwdemgunz said:

Sure but I can’t imagine a scenario in which the US wouldn’t heavily interfere in an election, especially given the circumstances there is no way the Lebanese are going to elect someone who is aligned with US/Israeli interests.

I don't know. Lebanon is a diverse country and Hezbollah was never that popular. I would think it's less popular now that they're getting bombed into the ground thanks to Hezbollah's pointless fireworks displays.

Yeah I dunno I think they’re keenly aware that it’s Israel bombing them with American bombs.

[internetbully]

Oct 5, 2024 16:09:50 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

Oct 5, 2024 15:42:34 GMT -5 internetbully said:

Yeah that’s why they’re getting bombed into the ground for sure

If you're not going to do anything meaningful, why give Israel an excuse? 

Because it’s not an excuse?

[itii]

Oct 5, 2024 16:10:37 GMT -5 meatballmaniac said:

Money-changing globalist sentence spice

Like fella, but for jew

[Sorley Boy]

Oct 5, 2024 16:10:53 GMT -5 throwdemgunz said:

Oct 5, 2024 14:58:23 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

I don't know. Lebanon is a diverse country and Hezbollah was never that popular. I would think it's less popular now that they're getting bombed into the ground thanks to Hezbollah's pointless fireworks displays.

Yeah I dunno I think they’re keenly aware that it’s Israel bombing them with American bombs.

Public perceptions of Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader who was assassinated by Israel last week, have grown more positive across the Middle East since his death, according to an analysis of social media and other internet posts.

While Lebanon, where Hezbollah is based, is among those countries, apinions of him are more negative there than in the region overall, said Jonathan Teubner, the chief executive of FilterLabs AI, a firm that measures public sentiment in places where polling is difficult to conduct...

The FilterLabs analysis noted worries among some in Lebanon that Hezbollah had courted a war with Israel, a conflict that has caused civilian casualties and threatens to bring further destruction to Lebanon, including its capital, Beirut.

Mr. Teubner said that in the days since Mr. Nasrallah’s death, many in Lebanon have hailed him as a martyr.

“But Lebanon is more negative overall on Nasrallah than the Arab world more generally because their focus has been on the devastation that has occurred and, in all likelihood, will increase with a ground invasion,” Mr. Teubner said.

[Sorley Boy]

Oct 5, 2024 16:12:47 GMT -5 internetbully said:

Oct 5, 2024 16:09:50 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

If you're not going to do anything meaningful, why give Israel an excuse? 

Because it’s not an excuse?

I think it is considering they're bombing Lebanon currently.

[Ass Dan]

Resistance isn't about results!

[meatballmaniac]

Oct 5, 2024 16:14:42 GMT -5 itii said:

Oct 5, 2024 16:10:37 GMT -5 meatballmaniac said:

Money-changing globalist sentence spice

Like fella, but for jew

exactly