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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 8:57:48 GMT -5
Sir, there is variety between Ms, M&M's, ML's, MLM marxist-lenninst-maoists and MLM multi level marketing. That's not even including the A, AC, AA and AAA savings at La Quinta inn.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 8:58:59 GMT -5
I can't tell how much of Theywalkedinline's posting over the last 12+ hours is satire and how much is deadass serious. There's always the leftist thread if you need an echo chamber. Well that doesn't clear it up, you're either dumb as a brick or playing it well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 8:59:30 GMT -5
Chomsky is more of a syndicalist anyway which is where true champions roam
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Post by theywalkedinline on Oct 16, 2019 9:01:27 GMT -5
There's always the leftist thread if you need an echo chamber. Well that doesn't clear it up, you're either dumb as a brick or playing it well. Bad morning? PM me man, we can talk about it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:02:53 GMT -5
Did you not listen to Cory Booker last night? Stop tearing this family apart!!!
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Post by theywalkedinline on Oct 16, 2019 9:10:23 GMT -5
Chomsky is more of a syndicalist anyway which is where true champions roam He has often described himself as a libertarian socialist. A libertarian socialist state can't exist without the formation of syndicates, there is no contradiction.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:15:21 GMT -5
Noam Chomsky is not an expert in leftist theory. He's not even on Twitter... He's a linguist. Please cite a PhD in anarcho-syndicalism.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:16:30 GMT -5
Anyway.
100% would watch any debate with dogmeat's dad giving the play by play
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Post by theywalkedinline on Oct 16, 2019 9:22:30 GMT -5
Noam Chomsky is not an expert in leftist theory. He's not even on Twitter... He's a linguist. Please cite a PhD in anarcho-syndicalism. "Reduced fat cheez-it's are better than regular cheez-its because they're more crispy and less greasy" - Rosa Luxemburg
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Post by Sorley Boy on Oct 16, 2019 9:25:12 GMT -5
There's always the leftist thread if you need an echo chamber. Well that doesn't clear it up, you're either dumb as a brick or playing it well. Did you ever fight Lobsterdog? Was wondering who won that clash between our two exemplars of the small man complex.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:33:54 GMT -5
Noam Chomsky is not an expert in leftist theory. He's not even on Twitter... He's a linguist. Please cite a PhD in anarcho-syndicalism. "Reduced fat cheez-it's are better than regular cheez-its because they're more crispy and less greasy" - Rosa Luxemburg THIS IS NOT TRUE
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:34:26 GMT -5
Anyway. 100% would watch any debate with dogmeat's dad giving the play by play guy was in rare form last night I was dying
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Post by pbcookies on Oct 16, 2019 9:34:55 GMT -5
Electability is all your hear from people who want a safe candidate that belongs in the politics of 40 years ago. Seriously, the only people who care about this dumb shit are the op-eds of elite media and urban professionals who ARE the base of the Democratic party now. They want a safe polite tolerant liberal society with fractional advancements or protections in economic programs as long as it doesn't hurt them to much. People don't give a shit when these goofballs keep trying to frame this and steer the process in the same direction that has butchered the party and this country. People like Bernie and Trump engage nonvoters and swing voters because they know who their enemies are. None of them are being swayed by any of these candidates... Trump and swing votes aren't looking at Harris or Castro and going all in. This surprise candidate shit is dumb and only existed with Obama because Hillary was awful then as she was now... Basically we're just running around the same problem of this party being garbage... Meanwhile the core enthusiasm is behind the most progressive candidate and they're all told to temper and be realistic. If Biden or Warren wins, they're not bringing out nonvoters, or swinging anyone. They'll most likely win, sure, but at what cost and this is the core problem of listening to people talk about politics when the outcome has no difference in their material conditions. I didn't have time to respond to this last night what with all the knee-slapping but I think this is wrong. Electability matters most to people whose lives hang most in the balance, not the least. Black voters, for instance, are consistently the most pragmatic voting bloc (they throw their weight behind the candidate they perceive as most likely to be elected, as they are doing now) because they have the most to lose under a Republican government. I think it's an unbelievably privileged position/perspective to not vote, or write in some kooky harebrained "conscience" candidate, or tell people electability doesn't matter and that they should vote based on narrow ideological parameters. Conditions are at stake here and the concern over electability is a function of that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:39:37 GMT -5
Noam Chomsky is not an expert in leftist theory. He's not even on Twitter... He's a linguist. Please cite a PhD in anarcho-syndicalism. "Reduced fat cheez-it's are better than regular cheez-its because they're more crispy and less greasy" - Rosa Luxemburg And look what happened to her!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:39:47 GMT -5
Well that doesn't clear it up, you're either dumb as a brick or playing it well. Did you ever fight Lobsterdog? Was wondering who won that clash between our two exemplars of the small man complex. 1) I didn't threaten to fight anyone, you've got that backwards 2) I can't really fight for shit anyway 3) No 4) Let's not make this thread worse by diving back into that. That being a topic of conversation died when B9 died.
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Post by Ass Dan on Oct 16, 2019 9:40:03 GMT -5
So glad I float around somewhere between Neoliberal and New Deal liberal and don’t have to waste my time worrying about trivial differences between crazy left wing group A and crazy left wing group B.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:46:29 GMT -5
assdan killed Rosa.
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Post by killedbyboard on Oct 16, 2019 9:56:55 GMT -5
Electability is a meaningless word to me. Obama wasnt electable (see also: white male) until he got elected. Electability is an ex post facto consideration. I know right now it means someone that will beat Trump, and that used to mean Hillary Clinton.
I do think people are overestimating Trump's chances this time around because of old thinking on incumbent presidents etc. etc. The reason you see some candidates waffling on hot button issues is that neither side can win the general with just their base. If Trump's base turns out in force, I still dont think he wins Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona, without appealing to a broader demographic. I also think it's really fucking tough for him to appeal to the rust belt now that his whole "I'm going to burn everything down" schtick runs obviously hollow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 10:07:47 GMT -5
Honestly as defeatist as I've about this country being dumb enough to vote him in a second time, I'm feeling a bit better about it after the last few weeks of bullshit.
As long as the DNC doesn't give Biden the nod, and/or embarrass the fuck out of themselves with this impeachment, he's voted out.
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Post by killedbyboard on Oct 16, 2019 10:27:47 GMT -5
People act like this muchacho won in a landslide. He won an electoral victory while losing the popular vote against the worst democratic candidate since Walter Mondale.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 10:32:10 GMT -5
People act like this muchacho won in a landslide. He won a electoral victory while losing the popular vote against the worst democratic candidate since Walter Mondale. It's over-dramatizing the whole thing, sure, but wasn't Hillary pretty much predicted to comfortably win by damn near every major news outlet up until the night of when certain states started going red? The manner in which it wen't from "it could never fucking happen" to "oh god, it actually happened" and everything that's happened since the election definitely accounts for the way we talk about it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 10:34:25 GMT -5
Are we talking about Mr. Noam "what is a dialectic?" Chomsky up in here?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 10:38:08 GMT -5
So glad I float around somewhere between Neoliberal and New Deal liberal and don’t have to waste my time worrying about trivial differences between crazy left wing group A and crazy left wing group B. Underrated parody post
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Post by killedbyboard on Oct 16, 2019 10:47:38 GMT -5
People act like this muchacho won in a landslide. He won a electoral victory while losing the popular vote against the worst democratic candidate since Walter Mondale. It's over-dramatizing the whole thing, sure, but wasn't Hillary pretty much predicted to comfortably win by damn near every major news outlet up until the night of when certain states started going red? The manner in which it wen't from "it could never fucking happen" to "oh god, it actually happened" and everything that's happened since the election definitely accounts for the way we talk about it. I don't mean to be obtuse, I definitely realize we all have a sort of residual dread around elections because of how unexpected and horrible these last 4 years have been. And I also would hate if another candidate for the democrats who polls well but that doesn't inspire turn out causes people to be complacent in thinking Trump's ouster is a sure thing. However I do think 2016 was a perfect storm that is hard to fit into any sort of predictive model and that things will adjust towards the mean now that we've had four tumultuous years of Trump. People forget too, that he suffered the worst midterm electoral defeat since the Nixon administration. I think almost anyone paying attention knows that repudiation was due to enthusiasm and organization. Democrats will have to capitalize on that again this time. We know exactly what Trump is trying to do with this Biden bullshit. He knows if he can deflect his own corruption onto the other side then he can repeat 2016.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 10:51:41 GMT -5
It's over-dramatizing the whole thing, sure, but wasn't Hillary pretty much predicted to comfortably win by damn near every major news outlet up until the night of when certain states started going red? The manner in which it wen't from "it could never fucking happen" to "oh god, it actually happened" and everything that's happened since the election definitely accounts for the way we talk about it. I don't mean to be obtuse, I definitely realize we all have a sort of residual dread around elections because of how unexpected and horrible these last 243 years have been. fixed that for you
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Post by theywalkedinline on Oct 16, 2019 10:54:47 GMT -5
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Post by Ass Dan on Oct 16, 2019 10:58:51 GMT -5
So glad I float around somewhere between Neoliberal and New Deal liberal and don’t have to waste my time worrying about trivial differences between crazy left wing group A and crazy left wing group B. Underrated parody post Nah man, I don’t think markets are inherently evil. They just need some work.
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Post by Ass Dan on Oct 16, 2019 11:01:35 GMT -5
Also Hillary won the popular vote. Nate Silver predicted there was a 1/3 chance she’d still lose the election.
She lost basically because some cry babies in Wisconsin had their feelings hurt (and possibly manipulated by Russian misinformation campaigns).
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Post by orthoxstice on Oct 16, 2019 11:32:16 GMT -5
Damn, just look at all that electability.
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