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Post by itii on Dec 25, 2022 21:48:15 GMT -5
Board really needs a model UN day at the meet up. Participation is mandatory for anyone with 50 posts in this thread(including all of sean and dmk's deleted ass accounts).
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Post by djilo91 on Dec 25, 2022 21:48:52 GMT -5
All I know is he was pouting about not being able to air a prerecorded speech before the World Cup final. Like, this isn’t a question of hearts and minds. The world is firmly against Putin’s incursion into Ukraine, but then what? Short of the world sending reinforcements into Ukraine, how do people see this ending? Ukraine being used as a meat shield to have the Russian army bash it’s head against the wall for a while, wasting resources and weakening themselves until the UN or US decide to get involved militarily after Russia does something fucked up or we say they’ve done something fucked up that might not even have happened to justify a full scale operation. Probably
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Post by Reasonablepizza518 on Dec 25, 2022 21:48:55 GMT -5
Like Sorley said, what do you want the guy to do?
His country got invaded by a country like 5x the size of his. IMO swallowing his pride and doing everything he can to generate support and resources is exactly what a good leader should be doing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 21:52:16 GMT -5
All I know is he was pouting about not being able to air a prerecorded speech before the World Cup final. Like, this isn’t a question of hearts and minds. The world is firmly against Putin’s incursion into Ukraine, but then what? Short of the world sending reinforcements into Ukraine, how do people see this ending? Ukraine being used as a meat shield to have the Russian army bash it’s head against the wall for a while, wasting resources and weakening themselves until the UN or US decide to get involved militarily after Russia does something fucked up or we say they’ve done something fucked up that might not even have happened to justify a full scale operation. Probably ok so, this is going to lead to the world sending reinforcements into Ukraine. That’s all you had to say
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Post by smashedbox on Dec 25, 2022 21:52:42 GMT -5
Yeah like putin just didn't mobilize another 300,000 a couple months ago. You think he's just gonna wake up one day and be like you know what I think this was a mistake.
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Post by burp on Dec 25, 2022 21:52:53 GMT -5
He gotta do what he gotta do I guess, though once it's all over he's going to have an incredible job ahead of him and I bet he'll get chewed up and spit out. The cult of personality doesn't last long when you can't just get by with fiesty words and videos of you of the frontline. Once it comes time to rebuild, develop future international relations outside of "give me weapons or you're an asshole", and confront all of the loss of life, I have a feeling he'll get ousted pretty quick. Obviously I hope for real progressive social change in Ukraine, but let's not pretend like Ukraine was not a mess before all of this, both politically and socially. I'm skeptical as to there being a real progressive spark that can unify the country.
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Post by djilo91 on Dec 25, 2022 21:53:49 GMT -5
Ukraine being used as a meat shield to have the Russian army bash it’s head against the wall for a while, wasting resources and weakening themselves until the UN or US decide to get involved militarily after Russia does something fucked up or we say they’ve done something fucked up that might not even have happened to justify a full scale operation. Probably ok so, this is going to lead to the world sending reinforcements into Ukraine. That’s all you had to say Yes. But only after Ukraine has used up it’s usefulness and Russia has wasted a lot of its resources.
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Post by djilo91 on Dec 25, 2022 21:55:05 GMT -5
He gotta do what he gotta do I guess, though once it's all over he's going to have an incredible job ahead of him and I bet he'll get chewed up and spit out. The cult of personality doesn't last long when you can't just get by with fiesty words and videos of you of the frontline. Once it comes time to rebuild, develop future international relations outside of "give me weapons or you're an asshole", and confront all of the loss of life, I have a feeling he'll get ousted pretty quick. Guys an actor. Literally.
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Post by burp on Dec 25, 2022 22:00:05 GMT -5
Sure, being a good wartime leader and terrible peacetime one is pretty common in history. If Winston Churchill can get embarrassed in what.. the year after the war's end?? Then it's really feasible, and even probable that Zelensky is unable to maintain his cult of personality when the zeitgeist dies down and it's time to actually run shit (including when the relatively dormant hardcore conservative elements, right wing, anti nato and pro-Russian elements begin to show their heads again)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 22:01:05 GMT -5
Tbf Churchill was ousted cause he pitched an invasion of the Soviet Union and the west was just like “lol no you’re out”
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Post by burp on Dec 25, 2022 22:02:48 GMT -5
what a turbo
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Post by djilo91 on Dec 25, 2022 22:06:17 GMT -5
Tbf Churchill was ousted cause he pitched an invasion of the Soviet Union and the west was just like “lol no you’re out” The guy was constantly hammered, of course he wanted to invade them lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 22:11:17 GMT -5
Tbf Churchill was ousted cause he pitched an invasion of the Soviet Union and the west was just like “lol no you’re out” The guy was constantly hammered, of course he wanted to invade them lol it was literally called Operation Unthinkable lol
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Post by itii on Dec 25, 2022 22:18:04 GMT -5
Tbf Churchill was ousted cause he pitched an invasion of the Soviet Union and the west was just like “lol no you’re out” The guy was constantly hammered, of course he wanted to invade them lol THAT'S NOT HOW ALCOHOLISM WORKS DANNY
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 22:30:04 GMT -5
Sounds like you guys don't like a Jew asking for so much money.
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Post by internetbully on Dec 26, 2022 1:38:02 GMT -5
how do people see this ending? Zelensky doing a podcast episode with the Try Guys
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Post by tandoori jones on Dec 26, 2022 8:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by theywalkedinline on Dec 26, 2022 8:55:57 GMT -5
A bunch of Lauren Boebert/Tucker Carlson level hot takes itt.
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Post by pbcookies on Dec 26, 2022 9:44:15 GMT -5
A bunch of Lauren Boebert/Tucker Carlson level hot takes itt. When I see a bunch of long posts with zero likes I generally just breeze past them, tbh
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Post by Percussionist Foster Grant on Dec 26, 2022 15:52:26 GMT -5
how do people see this ending? Zelensky doing a podcast episode with Cum Town
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Post by immortalrites on Dec 26, 2022 17:56:04 GMT -5
Incredible. "He's on the floor."
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Post by anointed on Dec 26, 2022 18:02:40 GMT -5
i aM sO sICk oF zELeNsKYy
yeah mf and we're so sick of putin, what exactly is your point?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2022 18:29:29 GMT -5
sick of cromags
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Post by theywalkedinline on Dec 26, 2022 19:20:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2022 19:21:33 GMT -5
:o
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2022 19:25:28 GMT -5
Wisconsin will annex the part of Michigan that looks like Wisconsin's hat.
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Post by djilo91 on Dec 26, 2022 19:28:48 GMT -5
Texas is going to ally with Mexico?
I want whatever drugs these guys are on
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Post by itii on Dec 26, 2022 19:29:17 GMT -5
Waaaaay more likely if Texas seceded we'd finish building that wall
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Post by Reasonablepizza518 on Dec 26, 2022 19:35:23 GMT -5
The rest of the country should just let the South secede. Imagine how much money competent states would save if they didn't have to subsidize how stupid and unhealthy most of the South is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2022 19:37:25 GMT -5
The U.S. will become a monarchy and here is how:
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