Cholo Molester
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Post by Cholo Molester on Jun 28, 2024 12:02:40 GMT -5
it's gunna be so tight when Trump is president again and he repeals daca and I get deported out of this stupid country
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Post by killedbyboard on Jun 28, 2024 12:04:31 GMT -5
You keep saying "on their watch" as if the reason it was lost wasn't because of shit that happened on Trump's watch. I think it's more that people don't believe they fight for them enough. And for good reason cause the optics and results speak for their self. Everyone is aware the Republicans are fucking terrible. Including the cons themselves. But the thing is people think you can fight "for abortion" when abortion was already a civil right that was enshrined into law thanks to the 14th amendment and Roe/Casey. People act like codifying Roe would somehow protect abortion from right wing nuts who would simply reverse or get rid of the law the second they have power, which is exactly what they did through the courts anyway. When you run on "hey, these mother fuckers are going to eliminate abortion rights" and then they do end up doing that the second they have enough power, the only way to prevent it is to make sure they don't get into power. I think people really thought shit wasn't going away, and they fucked around and found out these nuts really do believe in the shit they spout.
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Post by dogmeat on Jun 28, 2024 12:09:25 GMT -5
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Post by smashedbox on Jun 28, 2024 12:16:16 GMT -5
I think it's more that people don't believe they fight for them enough. And for good reason cause the optics and results speak for their self. Everyone is aware the Republicans are fucking terrible. Including the cons themselves. But the thing is people think you can fight "for abortion" when abortion was already a civil right that was enshrined into law thanks to the 14th amendment and Roe/Casey. People act like codifying Roe would somehow protect abortion from right wing nuts who would simply reverse or get rid of the law the second they have power, which is exactly what they did through the courts anyway. When you run on "hey, these mother fuckers are going to eliminate abortion rights" and then they do end up doing that the second they have enough power, the only way to prevent it is to make sure they don't get into power. I think people really thought shit wasn't going away, and they fucked around and found out these nuts really do believe in the shit they spout. *insert Eric Andre meme*
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Post by codync on Jun 28, 2024 12:25:36 GMT -5
2024 evangelical sweathog teachers are not prepared for the return of teenage Reddit atheists mfs after one "skibidi bible"
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Post by Insufferable and uncompromisin on Jun 28, 2024 12:27:21 GMT -5
this is where im at
agreed
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Post by Perm’d by God on Jun 28, 2024 12:28:59 GMT -5
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Post by Thin Lizzy Gulag Graduate on Jun 28, 2024 12:29:02 GMT -5
The Supreme Court is having a field day today. All of my "voting doesn't matter" hard-rocker friends are silent about this for some reason. I mean, on a presidential level, the damage to the Supreme Court is already done, is it not? It’ll be another 10ish years, most likely, before any new vacancies. Generally speaking, it’s fairly safe to assume that we won’t see any vacancies during the next presidency, and possibly not the following one either. Voting does matter on local administration, even regional, but presidential? At this point, we’re well beyond the point of harm reduction by voting for the lesser of two evils when it comes to the big picture wellbeing of the nation and geopolitics. Voting for the president is not harm reduction, and anyone who still thinks that after the Hillary then Biden catastrophe, and continues to vote for the Democratic Party, is simply enabling and complicit in the scam and dysfunction of the party. It would definitely get ugly for a bit, but if every democratic voter abstained, it would force a radical transformation in the Democratic Party if they had any desire to continue to exist. Continuing to try and slow the damage doesn’t work when the office of the president isn’t beholden to anything, and the small piecemeal, minor changes enacted by a democratic president that may temporarily improve some small quality of life factors for some people, dont stop the overall decline. Maybe its accelerationist, but id rather it get grim for a few years in hopes that it radicalizes the masses and forces change, then continue to decay for another 20+. It’s not just the conservative right wing base that needs a harsh wake up call, the liberals need an existential crisis to wake them the fuck up. Continuing to play the game that is provided to us as a way to make people feel like they’ve done their duty just perpetuates the whole scheme. We’re past reforming our way out of this, we’re past voting our way back to the light. The system is rotten, and the suffering it’s going to cause is already written in stone. It’s going to destroy some people’s lives, as it already is, so is it really sensible to knowingly prop it up artificially and drag out the suffering, or is it better to just get it over with in hopes we prevent the further destruction inevitably tied to stalling? For fucks sake, we’re funding a genocide that’s universally disapproved of by the global citizenry, under a democratic president, and we should feel bad for refusing to participate in voting for which corpse takes credit?
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Cholo Molester
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Post by Cholo Molester on Jun 28, 2024 12:29:28 GMT -5
👍 @ sofia
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Post by carl carlson on Jun 28, 2024 12:29:35 GMT -5
this is where im at agreed thumbs up the LAMESTREAM media is already doing that sister
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Post by dogmeat on Jun 28, 2024 12:33:19 GMT -5
lmao hell yeah
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Post by Insufferable and uncompromisin on Jun 28, 2024 12:34:49 GMT -5
More so talkin about my party who has union leaders in it. There is a growing federation of unions who tacitly support Biden. Gotta get em to put pressure
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Post by Thin Lizzy Gulag Graduate on Jun 28, 2024 12:35:18 GMT -5
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Post by Perm’d by God on Jun 28, 2024 12:36:16 GMT -5
I dunno if it's growing federation of tacit support if they all explicitly endorse him
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Post by Insufferable and uncompromisin on Jun 28, 2024 12:37:09 GMT -5
I dunno if it's growing federation of tacit support if they all explicitly endorse him I know, but they also push for things like a ceasefire in gaza
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Post by oatmeal on Jun 28, 2024 12:37:16 GMT -5
this is where im at agreed thumbs up Delusional posting
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Post by Insufferable and uncompromisin on Jun 28, 2024 12:42:29 GMT -5
this is where im at agreed thumbs up Delusional posting I just wrote this in three seconds because I am fired up
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Post by Perm’d by God on Jun 28, 2024 12:42:45 GMT -5
I dunno if it's growing federation of tacit support if they all explicitly endorse him I know, but they also push for things like a ceasefire in gaza Is it more than a couple of Locals?
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Cholo Molester
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Post by Cholo Molester on Jun 28, 2024 12:43:46 GMT -5
I don't subscribe to "harm reduction" but idk maybe repealing basic rights that immediately negatively affect millions of people more than what they're going through currently all to own the libs is not very based? idk narc I'mma let you take over, I have a meeting at 11 that I gotta prep for
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Post by Insufferable and uncompromisin on Jun 28, 2024 12:43:54 GMT -5
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Post by Cholo Molester on Jun 28, 2024 12:44:24 GMT -5
I said the same thing sofia said but with less words
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Post by Insufferable and uncompromisin on Jun 28, 2024 12:45:19 GMT -5
I said the same thing sofia said but with less words Sorry I was fired up. u got my back
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Post by Thin Lizzy Gulag Graduate on Jun 28, 2024 12:47:27 GMT -5
Sofia you did not write that in 3 seconds with your 25 wpm ass
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Post by Perm’d by God on Jun 28, 2024 12:48:06 GMT -5
I don't subscribe to "harm reduction" but idk maybe repealing basic rights that immediately negatively affect millions of people more than what they're going through currently all to own the libs is not very based? idk narc I'mma let you take over, I have a meeting at 11 that I gotta prep for I dunno, certain posters keep throwing out the "harm reduction" and "lesser evil" rhetoric in response to other posters who haven't appealed to either idea.
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Post by theonefreeman on Jun 28, 2024 12:55:10 GMT -5
All of my "voting doesn't matter" hard-rocker friends are silent about this for some reason. I mean, on a presidential level, the damage to the Supreme Court is already done, is it not? It’ll be another 10ish years, most likely, before any new vacancies. Generally speaking, it’s fairly safe to assume that we won’t see any vacancies during the next presidency, and possibly not the following one either. Voting does matter on local administration, even regional, but presidential? At this point, we’re well beyond the point of harm reduction by voting for the lesser of two evils when it comes to the big picture wellbeing of the nation and geopolitics. Voting for the president is not harm reduction, and anyone who still thinks that after the Hillary then Biden catastrophe, and continues to vote for the Democratic Party, is simply enabling and complicit in the scam and dysfunction of the party. It would definitely get ugly for a bit, but if every democratic voter abstained, it would force a radical transformation in the Democratic Party if they had any desire to continue to exist. Continuing to try and slow the damage doesn’t work when the office of the president isn’t beholden to anything, and the small piecemeal, minor changes enacted by a democratic president that may temporarily improve some small quality of life factors for some people, dont stop the overall decline. Maybe its accelerationist, but id rather it get grim for a few years in hopes that it radicalizes the masses and forces change, then continue to decay for another 20+. It’s not just the conservative right wing base that needs a harsh wake up call, the liberals need an existential crisis to wake them the fuck up. Continuing to play the game that is provided to us as a way to make people feel like they’ve done their duty just perpetuates the whole scheme. We’re past reforming our way out of this, we’re past voting our way back to the light. The system is rotten, and the suffering it’s going to cause is already written in stone. It’s going to destroy some people’s lives, as it already is, so is it really sensible to knowingly prop it up artificially and drag out the suffering, or is it better to just get it over with in hopes we prevent the further destruction inevitably tied to stalling? For fucks sake, we’re funding a genocide that’s universally disapproved of by the global citizenry, under a democratic president, and we should feel bad for refusing to participate in voting for which corpse takes credit? All voting is harm reduction, period. I think it's an irrefutable truth in this country. The damage is done already partly due to people who didn't see it that way I'm 2016 and falsely conflate their vote as some sort of extension of their ego. Things can, and will, get worse.
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Post by Cholo Molester on Jun 28, 2024 13:02:26 GMT -5
that freight post
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Post by Porch Honky on Jun 28, 2024 13:04:29 GMT -5
We lost the lesser/harm reduction sit out message either when Nixon was, or, but definitely when Reagan was elected.
Look at those college results. We didn't have any say or complicity and it fucking SUCKS.
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Post by Insufferable and uncompromisin on Jun 28, 2024 13:07:35 GMT -5
It is well documented on this messageboard that I have taken the proper tests and scored in the 90-100 WPM range.
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Post by Thin Lizzy Gulag Graduate on Jun 28, 2024 13:10:40 GMT -5
chalking something up to “owning the libs” is the most infantile way to try and dismiss a valid political strategy, though maybe it’s appropriate when the libs themselves are infantile at best.
It doesn’t matter which path is taken, both will involve people suffering tremendously, people dying, people being oppressed, lives being ruined, and damage that will take years to rectify. The same things that happen before any sort of societal collapse, revolution, and rebirth. One way drags it out for as long as possible, potentially forever. The other takes a calculated risk in hopes of getting it over with and moving past it.
You can enable a junkie by giving them money and they’ll continue being a junkie indefinitely, as long as the money flows, risking death the entire time. When you stop enabling them with money, it accelerates them towards rock bottom. They may die on the way there, and it’s pretty certain to get ugly for a bit, but if they don’t(and statistically they probably won’t), the sooner they get there, the sooner they can start to heal. Sometimes you gotta get worse to get better, and delaying that process by enabling is fruitless. Not saying this can be directly applied to America in 2024, but failing to see the correlation is willfully ignorant. We’ve been in decline, facing the writing on the wall for 50 years. Attempting to vote and organize our way in the other direction the entire time. We don’t have another 50 years to keep trying in hopes that the next election cycle will be the one watershed moment.
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Post by codync on Jun 28, 2024 13:10:41 GMT -5
I'm the fastest typist on this message board and that's on god
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