creep callout megathread / corky romano apreesh

[boundforgloryhole]

Jun 17, 2020 14:28:19 GMT -5 not Worship said:

Jun 17, 2020 14:00:17 GMT -5 fuzzyslippers said:

I totally get this, there’s always a subsect of particularly performative individuals online, and it feels disingenuous. But when you break it down to “grown men abusing their power and being creeps” versus “a group of Twitter users is being extremely vocal”, one of these scans as a much, much bigger problem than the other.

One may be more tangible than the other but i wholeheartedly believe that we're deeply abusing the liberties the internet has given us and its affecting the fabric of society and global mental health in incalculable ways

lol shut up you were team jesse boswell

[MMST3K]

How many kid diddlers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

SPOILER: Click to show

I don't know. I don't work on a hollywood lot.

[geneseeiselmstreet]

Jun 17, 2020 17:19:44 GMT -5 stephanie said:

I read this entire thread and still don't know who the fuck this guy is.

"Stand-up comedian" that makes Pete Davidson look like fucking Eddie Murphy

[Deleted]

Pete Davidson and Chris D'efiler are the same level of unfunny.

[chaospouch]

So this is still going on huh

[Ese Ese]

Sir yes sir

[chaospouch]

Idk catch me in the Ryan Adams thread passing judgement

[not Worship]

Only been 19 hours

[chaospouch]

fr fr, sketchy (alleged) behavior aside, twitter culture is so fucking toxic for a platform with such a short attention span

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Jun 17, 2020 18:41:20 GMT -5 chaospouch said:

Idk catch me in the Ryan Adams thread passing judgement

Top 5 internet post of the 2010s

[Radiation]

I don't really see how Worship was defending Chris D'Elia in any way, I think he was probably referring to posting that is low key like "YES, ANOTHER CELEBRITY PEDOPHILE!" and things of that ilk, that shit is definitely a little weird

[RealVile]

imagine waking up one day and you've gone from a comedy hero (to alot of losers) to an outed peado. it must get the heart racing

[198d]

Jun 17, 2020 13:07:03 GMT -5 I Gave You Power said:

Jun 17, 2020 13:03:51 GMT -5 not Worship said:

You know for a fact you have let sketchy misogyny and womanizing fly and have in all likelihood used it as convo fodder

Yes, when I was 18-21 and in a college environment. I'm 33 now and have very, very different apinions about women and a markedly better understanding of the shit they go through on a day-to-day basis. 

Now are you done trying to make this about me rather than reckon with the fact that you're defending Chris D'Elia with annoying-kid-in-philosophy-101 rhetoric?

I'm sorry but you're actually kind of proving Worship's point by saying this.

I don't give a shit about this comedian, he's probably a dirtbag, I had never heard of him until today. I also assume you're a solid guy, based on the little I know about you. We don't always agree, but I highly doubt you let your past define you. 

With that said, we now live in an environment where people aren't allowed to leave their past behind them and right the ship. You can acknowledge the growth you've had, however, all it takes is one person from those 18-21 years you mentioned to bring up something that shines on you in an unfavorable way to completely destroy your life. You may have done everything in your power to fix your incorrect behaviors/ideas, but that is null at this juncture. Worship is not defending this comedian, he's speaking out against this new wave of mob justice where everyone's past is now liable to be weaponized against them at any time for someone's personal gain—despite the fact there have been major cultural breakthroughs which simply didn't exist in our formative years (people older than 27, mostly). I wasn't raised in "woke" culture, I had to learn it through hard experiences and mistakes. A lot of which I'm not proud of. Should my previous errors haunt me for the rest of my life? I guess that seems to be the consensus in these crowds.

Look at what is happening at Bon Appetit. They rightfully outed the higher ups for discriminatory labor practices. Awesome. But for some reason, the mob justice started spilling over to another employee who had nothing to do with the initial grievance. This Delaney kid, who seemingly did nothing wrong in this scenario, had 8-10 year-old tweets dug up (some of which were made when he was fucking 17) of him saying some mildly offensive bro shit. He's on the verge of being cancelled, fired and has been forced to publicly apologize. For tweets he made 10 years ago. When he wasn't the aggressor in the original issue at all.

These people are not nearly as righteous or innocent as they appear. That's why I don't throw stones. Who would willingly take part in this shit? The same twitter mob who is cancelling someone with you today, will do the same to you tomorrow if you piss off the wrong person. Not to mention, almost every bad thing we have done, can be framed in a much more insidious tone in the right context.

[MMST3K]

Yeah pretty much.

[Deleted]

I think there's a biiiggg difference between saying some problematic shit 10 years ago, and grown ass men trying to sleep with 16 year old girls.

[not Worship]

Jun 17, 2020 19:40:41 GMT -5 dmk said:

I think there's a biiiggg difference between saying some problematic shit 10 years ago, and grown ass men trying to sleep with 16 year old girls.

Im not so sure anymore haha

[meatballmaniac]

Is it also fair to say that if you have an apostrophe in your first name, you’re cool, but if it’s in your last name, get fucked?

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198d is a very good poster

[svejk]

still can't believe those pesky bolsheviks cancelled the romanovs

[198d]

Also, people getting fired from their jobs, no matter the circumstance, is nothing to applaud. It's liberalism in its worst form. Stop doing the work of corporate HR departments on Twitter for free. The only thing to take away from that is how shitty our labor protections are in this country. If they can/will fire you for saying racist things, they'll do the same for being a socialist or trying to form a union. Corporations are far and away the most aggressive arbiters of environmental and worker violence in the world. They should not hold authority to fire people for things they say outside of the workplace.

We all hate racists, but letting our employers be our judge and jury just relinquishes more worker power. Your employer is an actual material contributor to systemic racism, dumb individuals generally are not. This is not excusing the behavior, but trying to modify how these issues are handled and what the root cause actually is.

Like does anyone actually think Starbucks can sincerely promote inclusion and diversity in their stores by holding company training sessions on the subject, while most of their product is harvested by underpaid brown people? FUCK OFF.

[chaospouch]

Jun 17, 2020 19:43:43 GMT -5 meatballmaniac said:

Is it also fair to say that if you have an apostrophe in your first name, you’re cool, but if it’s in your last name, get fucked?

I can get behind this

[198d]

Jun 17, 2020 19:40:41 GMT -5 dmk said:

I think there's a biiiggg difference between saying some problematic shit 10 years ago, and grown ass men trying to sleep with 16 year old girls.

You're being willfully obtuse. No one is arguing against that. Worship already responded perfectly. The two "crimes" are different, but the outcome and punishment is barely distinguishable. 

[198d]

Jun 17, 2020 19:40:41 GMT -5 dmk said:

I think there's a biiiggg difference between saying some problematic shit 10 years ago, and grown ass men trying to sleep with 16 year old girls.

It also begs the question, why the fuck are you digging up someone's old tweets who had nothing to do with the issue to begin with?

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[BloodFarts2]

It sounds like we need to get these men some more rights.

[svejk]

Jun 17, 2020 19:50:17 GMT -5 198d said:

Jun 17, 2020 19:40:41 GMT -5 dmk said:

I think there's a biiiggg difference between saying some problematic shit 10 years ago, and grown ass men trying to sleep with 16 year old girls.

You're being willfully obtuse. No one is arguing against that. Worship already responded perfectly. The two "crimes" are different, but the outcome and punishment is barely distinguishable. 

the consequences between those two things are absolutely distinguishable. saying problematic shit is protected speech 99% of the time. a company may fire somebody for saying something dubious ten years ago, but they won't be criminally liable. an adult who actively tries to sleep with minors may incidentally also be fired, and rightly so, but the important distinction is that sexual predation of minors is not protected by law. unless you and the judge used to buttchug adrenochrome together at yale.

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The KiD’iddler sounds like someone Batman needs to keep two eyes on.

[MMST3K]

Jun 17, 2020 20:02:12 GMT -5 svejk said:

Jun 17, 2020 19:50:17 GMT -5 198d said:

You're being willfully obtuse. No one is arguing against that. Worship already responded perfectly. The two "crimes" are different, but the outcome and punishment is barely distinguishable. 

the consequences between those two things are absolutely distinguishable. saying problematic shit is protected speech 99% of the time. a company may fire somebody for saying something dubious ten years ago, but they won't be criminally liable. an adult who actively tries to sleep with minors may incidentally also be fired, and rightly so, but the important distinction is that sexual predation of minors is not protected by law. unless you and the judge used to buttchug adrenochrome together at yale.

I think he meant the punishment brought on by the populace not the actual law.You know ostracizing and the like.

[svejk]

Jun 17, 2020 20:04:48 GMT -5 MMST3K said:

Jun 17, 2020 20:02:12 GMT -5 svejk said:

the consequences between those two things are absolutely distinguishable. saying problematic shit is protected speech 99% of the time. a company may fire somebody for saying something dubious ten years ago, but they won't be criminally liable. an adult who actively tries to sleep with minors may incidentally also be fired, and rightly so, but the important distinction is that sexual predation of minors is not protected by law. unless you and the judge used to buttchug adrenochrome together at yale.

I think he meant the punishment brought on by the populace not the actual law.You know ostracizing and the like.

even so, outrage toward someone being verifiably predatory with children versus someone who made an off color fat joke and is getting their shit blown up on twitter 7 years after the fact is hardly proportional 

[svejk]

Jun 17, 2020 20:13:21 GMT -5 MMST3K said:

Jun 17, 2020 20:10:26 GMT -5 svejk said:

even so, outrage toward someone being verifiably predatory with children versus someone who made an off color fat joke and is getting their shit blown up on twitter 7 years after the fact is hardly proportional 

I'll agree but you're both in the same sinking boat only difference is the rate at which his side is sinking is faster.

just replace this violin with a smaller one