FILM THREAD

[MMST3K]

Nov 8, 2019 14:29:48 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

Nov 8, 2019 14:19:21 GMT -5 MMST3K said:

Well I have ADHD.

I just meant when it comes to movies specifically.

It's not ADD people are just dumber.

[lil stormy]

Nov 8, 2019 14:57:03 GMT -5 MMST3K said:

Nov 8, 2019 14:29:48 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

I just meant when it comes to movies specifically.

It's not ADD people are just dumber.

ADD American Dumb Dumbs

[disrupticon]

Seeing Blade Runner in IMAX tonight after missing last year's screening, 2049 in a few weeks, and Apocalypse Now in December.

It was nice having functioning eardrums, I'll miss them.

[jaredfromsubway]

Criterion Channel recently added An Elephant Sitting Still. Wasn't bored for a single second of its near 4 hour runtime. My favorite film this year and one of the best of the decade.

[bentenn]

Doctor Sleep rules. Legit epic feel. Flanagan Forever.

[pbcookies]

Watching The Ring (US version) for the first time for some reason

I am surprised by the beauty of the cinematography

[☭ Bob Loblaw ☭]

Nov 10, 2019 0:06:31 GMT -5 pbcookies said:

Watching The Ring (US version) for the first time for some reason

I am surprised by the beauty of the cinematography

I love this movie so goddamn much.  The unrelenting tone is insane.  Verbinski somehow totally nailed it with this one.

[pbcookies]

Nov 10, 2019 1:18:42 GMT -5 ☭ Bob Loblaw ☭ said:

Nov 10, 2019 0:06:31 GMT -5 pbcookies said:

Watching The Ring (US version) for the first time for some reason

I am surprised by the beauty of the cinematography

I love this movie so goddamn much.  The unrelenting tone is insane.  Verbinski somehow totally nailed it with this one.

I wish it wasn't so darn green and there is some pretty silly little kid acting, but yeah pretty scary and obviously made with a lot of care.  There is a real economy to the visuals that I found very resonant.

I watched The Exorcist for the first time on Halloween this year (you can prob tell I'm not a big horror guy, haha) and while there was a lot I appreciated about it, I didn't find it frightening at all.  I thought The Ring was 100x scarier, not sure if that's a controversial apinion but I imagine it is

[lil stormy]

The Exorcist is only scary when you're 12. I thought they did a great job with The Ring, but I find Ringu to be 10 times as disturbing.

[pbcookies]

Nov 10, 2019 1:33:03 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

The Exorcist is only scary when you're 12. I thought they did a great job with The Ring, but I find Ringu to be 10 times as disturbing.

I was thinking about watching Ringu tomorrow, but they don't have it on Prime as far as I can tell

I'd be into a shortlist of lil stormy Asian horror recs, though!  I watched Gozu a couple years ago and thought I was having a brain aneurysm 

[heathenist]

Nov 10, 2019 1:33:03 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

The Exorcist is only scary when you're 12. I thought they did a great job with The Ring, but I find Ringu to be 10 times as disturbing.

Sure, you could argue that The Ring or Ringu is scarier in a vacuum, but you have to also consider the context in which these films came out. The Exorcist came out in 1973 and was groundbreaking, there just weren't any other movies like that being made. And not to mention the shock value of many of the scenes in 1973 were just absolutely insane. The Exorcist when it came out was in a league of its own.

[lil stormy]

Nov 10, 2019 2:06:32 GMT -5 heathenist said:

Nov 10, 2019 1:33:03 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

The Exorcist is only scary when you're 12. I thought they did a great job with The Ring, but I find Ringu to be 10 times as disturbing.

Sure, you could argue that The Ring or Ringu is scarier in a vacuum, but you have to also consider the context in which these films came out. The Exorcist came out in 1973 and was groundbreaking, there just weren't any other movies like that being made. And not to mention the shock value of many of the scenes in 1973 were just absolutely insane. The Exorcist when it came out was in a league of its own.

Agreed 100%. When the Exorcist came out it was pretty much the scariest movie of its time. First time I saw it was in 78 so I must have been around 9 or 10. Shit traumatized me. I'm just putting the movie into todays perspective. It would still scare a child, beyond that I think we've become too sensitized.

[pbcookies]

It's an interesting point. I think horror and comedy are the most context-dependent genres by far, whereas straight drama remains a lot more resonant/applicable over long periods of time

[MMST3K]

Nov 10, 2019 12:31:01 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

Nov 10, 2019 2:06:32 GMT -5 heathenist said:

Sure, you could argue that The Ring or Ringu is scarier in a vacuum, but you have to also consider the context in which these films came out. The Exorcist came out in 1973 and was groundbreaking, there just weren't any other movies like that being made. And not to mention the shock value of many of the scenes in 1973 were just absolutely insane. The Exorcist when it came out was in a league of its own.

Agreed 100%. When the Exorcist came out it was pretty much the scariest movie of its time. First time I saw it was in 78 so I must have been around 9 or 10. Shit traumatized me. I'm just putting the movie into todays perspective. It would still scare a child, beyond that I think we've become too sensitized.

Well I just watched The Texas Chainsaw Massacre its not scary and I can only wish that it could have scared me like it did audiences that saw it when it came out.

[Ass Dan]

Saw Parasite last night. It was great, I loved it. One q:

SPOILER: Click to show

Was the dude in the basement supposed to be the architect? They mention that people had those hiding rooms built to hide from creditors and it was mentioned that the dude in the basement was hiding from a creditor.

[lil stormy]

Nov 10, 2019 12:33:57 GMT -5 pbcookies said:

It's an interesting point. I think horror and comedy are the most context-dependent genres by far, whereas straight drama remains a lot more resonant/applicable over long periods of time

I get that, but where as I'll still watch old horror movies and not be scared (but be entertained for sure), I can watch old comedies, like Where's Poppa?, Dr. Strangelove, Animal House etc. and still laugh my ass off 40 years after first seeing them. Not sure how older comedies hold up for newer generations. Shit I still think the Marx Brothers are funnier than any modern comedy you could name.

[bentenn]

Scary or not scary The Exorcist is still a masterpiece. Friedkin really didn’t even make it to be scary, it just inherently fucked w people. The site of the demon standing up in the room is one of the greats. Burstyn is an all timer performance and the Father Karros stuff is impeccable.

[pbcookies]

Nov 10, 2019 12:47:56 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

Nov 10, 2019 12:33:57 GMT -5 pbcookies said:

It's an interesting point. I think horror and comedy are the most context-dependent genres by far, whereas straight drama remains a lot more resonant/applicable over long periods of time

I get that, but where as I'll still watch old horror movies and not be scared (but be entertained for sure), I can watch old comedies, like Where's Poppa?, Dr. Strangelove, Animal House etc. and still laugh my ass off 40 years after first seeing them. Not sure how older comedies hold up for newer generations. Shit I still think the Marx Brothers are funnier than any modern comedy you could name.

Oh, I definitely wasn't trying to say that drama is "better" than horror/comedy, just the emotional response is a lot different.  We could really get into the weeds about this, but I think there are a lot of things happening when a movie gets a fear response out of a viewer.  You could group these things into sort of "cheap/manipulative" and "earned/well-crafted" piles, and the greatest horror movies (for me The Shining for example) stay scary over time because they rely less of cheap manipulation and more on doing hard work to create a sense of dread.  The more ordinary type of horror film is more ephemeral, at least for me.

In a lot of ways I think old horror/comedy/b-movie cinema is a more interesting snapshot of what a culture feared/valued/found amusing at a particular time and place than more "prestigious" forms.

[lil stormy]

Nov 10, 2019 12:59:32 GMT -5 bentenn said:

Scary or not scary The Exorcist is still a masterpiece. Friedkin really didn’t even make it to be scary, it just inherently fucked w people. The site of the demon standing up in the room is one of the greats. Burstyn is an all timer performance and the Father Karros stuff is impeccable.

I think that the Exorcist is a masterpiece isn't even debatable. Same with The Omen, Susperia etc. My only argument was what younger people these days find scary. In a poll I recently heard on some radio station the other morning, in the top 10 scariest movies of all time, IT was no. 1. I found that ridiculous, but I guess todays younger audience are more geared towards digital effects and jump scares. The only 3 movies on the entire list I agreed with was The Shining, The Omen and Alien. The rest was fodder to me, yet probably held in high regard if you're just a casual movie goer and not a cinephile.

[lil stormy]

Nov 10, 2019 13:02:49 GMT -5 pbcookies said:

Nov 10, 2019 12:47:56 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

I get that, but where as I'll still watch old horror movies and not be scared (but be entertained for sure), I can watch old comedies, like Where's Poppa?, Dr. Strangelove, Animal House etc. and still laugh my ass off 40 years after first seeing them. Not sure how older comedies hold up for newer generations. Shit I still think the Marx Brothers are funnier than any modern comedy you could name.

Oh, I definitely wasn't trying to say that drama is "better" than horror/comedy, just the emotional response is a lot different.  We could really get into the weeds about this, but I think there are a lot of things happening when a movie gets a fear response out of a viewer.  You could group these things into sort of "cheap/manipulative" and "earned/well-crafted" piles, and the greatest horror movies (for me The Shining for example) stay scary over time because they rely less of cheap manipulation and more on doing hard work to create a sense of dread.  The more ordinary type of horror film is more ephemeral, at least for me.

In a lot of ways I think old horror/comedy/b-movie cinema is a more interesting snapshot of what a culture feared/valued/found amusing at a particular time and place than more "prestigious" forms.

We're absolutely on the same page when it comes to horror movies from what you posted.

As far as recommending Asian horror (from your earlier post), I'd be the wrong person to ask as I haven't seen too many obscure ones. I would definitely recommend Uzumaki though. It's the Japanese equivalent of a Lynch "horror" flick. Jokai Monsters is wild as well. Super campy and unique.

[heathenist]

Nov 10, 2019 12:36:16 GMT -5 MMST3K said:

Nov 10, 2019 12:31:01 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

Agreed 100%. When the Exorcist came out it was pretty much the scariest movie of its time. First time I saw it was in 78 so I must have been around 9 or 10. Shit traumatized me. I'm just putting the movie into todays perspective. It would still scare a child, beyond that I think we've become too sensitized.

Well I just watched The Texas Chainsaw Massacre its not scary and I can only wish that it could have scared me like it did audiences that saw it when it came out.

TCM is fucking terrifying no matter what. The dinner scene and the chase scene through the woods are fucking horrifying I don’t care when you watched it.

[𝖒𝖊𝖔𝖜𝖋𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓]

TCM and Halloween are my horror GOATs. They put off a sense of dread like nothing else.

[heathenist]

Nov 10, 2019 13:36:44 GMT -5 𝖒𝖊𝖔𝖜𝖋𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 said:

TCM and Halloween are my horror GOATs. They put off a sense of dread like nothing else.

Samsies

[lil stormy]

I agree with TCM still being scary no matter the age or generation. I feel that way about Night of the Living Dead as well, and a handful of others with that timeless sense of dread. I would hope that's true.

[MMST3K]

Nov 10, 2019 13:51:28 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

I agree with TCM still being scary no matter the age or generation. I feel that way about Night of the Living Dead as well, and a handful of others with that timeless sense of dread. I would hope that's true.

Out of Suspiria ,TCM, and NLD I found Suspiria the scariest cause surrealism to me is really creepy.I'm also rather desensitization I can watch 3 cannibal movies and chuckle.I love TCM and NLD they have great build ups to just a thrust of horrifying shit but I find more surrealist films like The Shinning far scarier and terror is very subjective what scares you might not scare me.Lake Mungo was probably the scariest shit I have ever seen in certain scenes I had to remember to breathe.

[pbcookies]

Nov 10, 2019 15:02:02 GMT -5 MMST3K said:

Nov 10, 2019 13:51:28 GMT -5 lil stormy said:

I agree with TCM still being scary no matter the age or generation. I feel that way about Night of the Living Dead as well, and a handful of others with that timeless sense of dread. I would hope that's true.

Out of Suspiria ,TCM, and NLD I found Suspiria the scariest cause surrealism to me is really creepy.I'm also rather desensitization I can watch 3 cannibal movies and chuckle.I love TCM and NLD they have great build ups to just a thrust of horrifying shit but I find more surrealist films like The Shinning far scarier and terror is very subjective what scares you might not scare me.Lake Mungo was probably the scariest shit I have ever seen in certain scenes I had to remember to breathe.

Yeah same.  I think there are maybe three broad subtypes of fear emotions: anxiety, shock, and disgust.  Horror films try to hit these emotions at varying levels.  You hit anxiety with suspense and a "not quite right" feeling, shock with jump scares, and disgust with gore and gross effects.  I personally don't get shocked or disgusted very easily, but I can be pretty anxious and films that play to that freak me out pretty good.

If this theory makes no sense, forgive me, I've held it for like ten minutes.

[lil stormy]

Nov 10, 2019 15:12:11 GMT -5 pbcookies said:

Nov 10, 2019 15:02:02 GMT -5 MMST3K said:

Out of Suspiria ,TCM, and NLD I found Suspiria the scariest cause surrealism to me is really creepy.I'm also rather desensitization I can watch 3 cannibal movies and chuckle.I love TCM and NLD they have great build ups to just a thrust of horrifying shit but I find more surrealist films like The Shinning far scarier and terror is very subjective what scares you might not scare me.Lake Mungo was probably the scariest shit I have ever seen in certain scenes I had to remember to breathe.

Yeah same.  I think there are maybe three broad subtypes of fear emotions: anxiety, shock, and disgust.  Horror films try to hit these emotions at varying levels.  You hit anxiety with suspense and a "not quite right" feeling, shock with jump scares, and disgust with gore and gross effects.  I personally don't get shocked or disgusted very easily, but I can be pretty anxious and films that play to that freak me out pretty good.

If this theory makes no sense, forgive me, I've held it for like ten minutes.

That's a solid theory to me. I'd be squarely in the anxiety camp for sure.

[lil stormy]

I gotta check out Lake Mungo.

[bentenn]

I think my new favorite moment in JACKIE BROWN is when Ordell is driving Max somewhere in Max's car and turns on his radio and Max's tape of The Delfonics is playing and Ordell says: 


"I didn't know you liked The Delfonics?" And Max says "Yeah. They're pretty good."


Uggghhhhh. That feeling of liking a song based on your connection to someone is displayed so well, so subtle. Forster's little smile he has while delivering that line is great.

[Radiation]

Saw Parasite this weekend, pretty sick. Really picks up the second half haha