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Post by Ass Dan on Nov 4, 2024 15:56:00 GMT -5
I’m very libertarian/lib technocrat-pilled on rent control (I miss when “liberaltarian” was thrown around a lot). Doesn’t work very well, with the limited success having shitty downstream consequences contrary to achieving affordable housing. This isnt necessarily true in rental markets with big institutional investors owning a big share of the properties. Since the financial crisis big investors have bought up tons of single family housing to rent out. This has generally translated to higher rents, indicative of increased market power. |
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Post by vomitponx on Nov 4, 2024 15:57:50 GMT -5
unfortunately 33 is gonna be a majority NO. the most money pumped into that prop funded by apartment companies and the language tricking dumbass californians to think NO means affordable housing. just like when they voted no on sports betting |
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Post by dmk on Nov 4, 2024 16:03:09 GMT -5
Turned on election coverage for about 5 minutes and they cut to Fat Joe speaking at a Harris rally. This shit is just unserious.
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Post by JDS on Nov 4, 2024 16:07:29 GMT -5
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Post by johnny two cool on Nov 4, 2024 16:10:25 GMT -5
I’m very libertarian/lib technocrat-pilled on rent control (I miss when “liberaltarian” was thrown around a lot). Doesn’t work very well, with the limited success having shitty downstream consequences contrary to achieving affordable housing. This isnt necessarily true in rental markets with big institutional investors owning a big share of the properties. Since the financial crisis big investors have bought up tons of single family housing to rent out. This has generally translated to higher rents, indicative of increased market power. You look at any city government and they seem to always have openings for the housing positions because it fucking sucks. |
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Post by solidsnake on Nov 4, 2024 16:16:58 GMT -5
unfortunately 33 is gonna be a majority NO. the most money pumped into that prop funded by apartment companies and the language tricking dumbass californians to think NO means affordable housing. just like when they voted no on sports betting In terms of my pro-government paternalism positions, at this point it seems easy gambling has been a bad thing with really bad implications for guys. My heart says fuck it, people can choose their entertainment or fuck up their lives how they like, but getting big “miners blowing wages at the saloon on payday” vibes nowadays. |
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Post by Magnum P.P. on Nov 4, 2024 16:19:30 GMT -5
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Post by DrewBlood on Nov 4, 2024 16:27:46 GMT -5
Turned on election coverage for about 5 minutes and they cut to Fat Joe speaking at a Harris rally. This shit is just unserious. "he ain't even fat anymore, he's just Joe" |
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Post by jefe on Nov 4, 2024 16:33:29 GMT -5
Wat. It's yes 33, no on 34. Nope. I voted no on 33 and yes on 34. I doubt that Prop 33 going one way or the other does much of anything. Prop 33 does literally nothing to reduce housing costs at all. It might provide some rent stabilization for a very small number of people in select areas. It will definitely slow down housing production and some cities will use it to effectively block new housing construction. It may cause rent to rise for younger people who are renting their first or second apartment. this post sounds like an ad funded by ca realtors |
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Post by johnny two cool on Nov 4, 2024 16:35:34 GMT -5
Nope. I voted no on 33 and yes on 34. I doubt that Prop 33 going one way or the other does much of anything. Prop 33 does literally nothing to reduce housing costs at all. It might provide some rent stabilization for a very small number of people in select areas. It will definitely slow down housing production and some cities will use it to effectively block new housing construction. It may cause rent to rise for younger people who are renting their first or second apartment. this post sounds like an ad funded by ca realtors What exactly do you think prop 33 is actually going to accomplish? |
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Post by johnny two cool on Nov 4, 2024 16:36:25 GMT -5
I did vote for Prop 5 which is much more important and impactful tho
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Post by killedbyboard on Nov 4, 2024 17:54:45 GMT -5
Wat. It's yes 33, no on 34. Nope. I voted no on 33 and yes on 34. I doubt that Prop 33 going one way or the other does much of anything. Prop 33 does literally nothing to reduce housing costs at all. It might provide some rent stabilization for a very small number of people in select areas. It will definitely slow down housing production and some cities will use it to effectively block new housing construction. It may cause rent to rise for younger people who are renting their first or second apartment. I think this just shows you didn't look into these two props at all. I could understand maybe disagreeing with prop 33 but only because it doesn't go far enough, but yes on 34 is insane. That's a prop sponsored by fucking realtors and landlords to punish an AIDS nonprofit for proposing prop 33. |
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Post by vomitponx on Nov 4, 2024 18:00:17 GMT -5
I agree with narc that passing prop 33 will probably not do much but Myth: Prop 33 won’t reduce the cost of rent. Factcheck: Again, Prop 33 doesn’t do anything to change rent regulations on its own. However, its repeal of Costa-Hawkins would allow local governments to pass vacancy control measures, which could regulate market rates. Myth: Rent control will discourage developers from building new housing. Fact Check: A 2018 USC report found that “rent regulations do not impact new housing construction.” A 2018 UC-Berkeley report found that “claims that rent control has negative effects on development of new housing are generally not supported by research.” A 30-year study of 76 cities in New Jersey found that rent control had little to no statistically significant effect on new construction. And by the way, the landlord lobby estimated that California had 1.2 million vacant units in 2022. California has 13.32 million households. dornsife.usc.edu/eri/wp-content/uploads/sites/41/2023/01/2018RentMattersPERE.pdfbelonging.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/haasinstitute_rentcontrol.pdf?file=1&force=1tinyurl.com/laballotguideanyways, i voted yes on 33 |
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Post by chaospouch on Nov 4, 2024 18:06:26 GMT -5
Turned on election coverage for about 5 minutes and they cut to Fat Joe speaking at a Harris rally. This shit is just unserious. Praying for a cabinet position for Don Cartagena if Kamala wins |
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Post by antipasto on Nov 4, 2024 18:11:45 GMT -5
Turned on election coverage for about 5 minutes and they cut to Fat Joe speaking at a Harris rally. This shit is just unserious. a cabinet position for Don Cartagena I love German expressionism |
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Post by chaospouch on Nov 4, 2024 18:15:08 GMT -5
What if Kamala’s intro music at a rally was Fat Joe and Big Pun Twinz (Deep Cover 98)
Game over
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Post by Sorley Boy on Nov 4, 2024 18:20:13 GMT -5
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Post by johnny two cool on Nov 4, 2024 18:22:47 GMT -5
I think maybe a robust public sector housing intervention that provides housing for multiple income levels would serve as an actual intervention, alongside comprehensive zoning reform , land-use reform, and changes in travel mode/behavior. A renter's tax credit is a good idea, and other protections that apply directly to renters rather than to units. I don't think rent control is bad, I just don't think it actually addresses the problem in this case. And this is what I read: ternercenter.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/Rent_Control_Paper_053018.pdf Proponents of the full Costa-Hawkins repeal and expansion of rent control believe that enacting
stronger price protections is the most effective way to protect tenants and avoid displacement, which
disproportionately affects lower-income tenants and renters of color. One study in New York—which
has strict rent control laws—found that rent control does achieve those intended effects, providing
residential stability for low-income households.7 In San Francisco, another study found that
households living in rent controlled units were 20 percent more likely to stay in their homes, and
benefited from between $2,300 and $6,600 per person each year in rent savings.8
On the other hand, the literature also suggests that strict rent controls—which would become legal
under a full repeal of Costa-Hawkins—could constrain new housing supply, reduce investment in
housing quality, lead to the removal of existing units from the market.9 There is also concern that,
because rent control is rarely means-tested, the benefits don’t always accrue to those who need it
most.
A study in Cambridge, Massachusetts found that when rent control was expanded in 1970, “roughly
10 percent of the city’s rent-controlled housing stock was converted to condominiums and moved out
from under the grasp of the ordinance.”10 Moreover, the subsequent removal of controls in 1995
resulted in a significant increase in property investments and a rise in housing quality. 11
Similar results have been found in California cities that instituted stricter versions of rent control
prior to Costa-Hawkins. Specifically, occupied rental housing between 1980 and 1990 in the rentcontrolled cities of Berkeley, Santa Monica, West Hollywood and East Palo Alto (which all had vacancy control, requiring rents to remain controlled even after a unit is vacated) declined by 5.9
percent, while adjacent cities without such controls saw their occupied rental housing increase by
about 2 percent. 12 Even under Costa-Hawkins, rent control has been found to have a negative effect
on overall supply. The San Francisco study cited above found that while it benefited those in
controlled units, rent control “reduced rental housing supply by 15 percent, causing a 5.1 percent
city-wide rent increase.” 13'
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Post by itii on Nov 4, 2024 18:28:00 GMT -5
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Post by floorpunchchalie on Nov 4, 2024 18:30:35 GMT -5
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Post by johnny two cool on Nov 4, 2024 18:31:11 GMT -5
Nope. I voted no on 33 and yes on 34. I doubt that Prop 33 going one way or the other does much of anything. Prop 33 does literally nothing to reduce housing costs at all. It might provide some rent stabilization for a very small number of people in select areas. It will definitely slow down housing production and some cities will use it to effectively block new housing construction. It may cause rent to rise for younger people who are renting their first or second apartment. I think this just shows you didn't look into these two props at all. I could understand maybe disagreeing with prop 33 but only because it doesn't go far enough, but yes on 34 is insane. That's a prop sponsored by fucking realtors and landlords to punish an AIDS nonprofit for proposing prop 33. The AIDS nonprofit guy is kind of a notorious piece of shit |
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Post by throwdemgunz on Nov 4, 2024 18:56:46 GMT -5
What if Kamala’s intro music at a rally was Fat Joe and Big Pun Twinz (Deep Cover 98) Game over Dead in the middle of little Titaly little did we know we riddled some middleman who didn’t do diddly |
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Post by Aaron on Nov 4, 2024 19:15:54 GMT -5
PA VBM results today, Dems expecting 20/25K. It was like 2400. 🫨
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Post by itii on Nov 4, 2024 19:27:40 GMT -5
PA VBM results today, Dems expecting 20/25K. It was like 2400. 🫨 Welp that's it. Trump won, Wwiii started, might as well top ourselves before we starve in the nucular winter |
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Post by Aaron on Nov 4, 2024 19:34:06 GMT -5
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Post by chaospouch on Nov 4, 2024 19:47:00 GMT -5
PA VBM results today, Dems expecting 20/25K. It was like 2400. 🫨 PA state capital resident here: the energy and amount of campaigning and canvassing has been completely insane the last two weeks and I’ve been through a lot of elections here now We had to put a sign on our door not to knock bc it’s legit like 2/3 per hour, all day, I’m working from home rn and see it all day I probably get close to fifty texts on my work cell and close to that on my personal throughout the day |
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Post by theywalkedinline on Nov 4, 2024 19:59:17 GMT -5
I celebrate Fat Joes entire catalogue and appreciate his work on hospital price transparency.
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