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Post by Sorley Boy on Oct 15, 2019 16:47:12 GMT -5
anyone in here stan for biden? :: everyone looks at Sorley Boy :: Because I don't like Bernie worship? He's a good guy, I just don't consider him the most qualified candidate for the job, and the fact supporting him has become this pillar of white male millenial identity is weird to me. I would still vote for him before Biden.
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Post by xbrdclx on Oct 15, 2019 16:48:55 GMT -5
Candidate most likely to dab onstage? I'd say Yang, maybe Booker
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 16:49:29 GMT -5
Um, sexist much?
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Post by anointed on Oct 15, 2019 16:49:58 GMT -5
Candidate most likely to dab onstage? I'd say Yang, maybe Booker White power confirmed
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 16:54:33 GMT -5
Sorley Boy confirmed KKK member
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 17:11:24 GMT -5
Warren is obviously just supported by a bunch of sexy librarians.
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Post by immortalrites on Oct 15, 2019 17:13:36 GMT -5
Biden's captured the coveted chiropractor vote I see.
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Post by lobsterdog on Oct 15, 2019 17:19:17 GMT -5
Bernie's entire base is people who don't participate in polling anyway.
I'll start worry about him not winning when actual votes start getting cast.
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Post by ITID on Oct 15, 2019 17:22:38 GMT -5
Biden's captured the coveted chiropractor vote I see. You ever feel like sometimes life is a little too on the nose?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 17:37:40 GMT -5
Few thoughts.
Will the South really go for Biden on the Obama veneer?
Rust belt and rural Midwest is heavy Bernie zone and I'm sure he'll carry them.
I can vouch for 6 registered Republicans who hate Biden/Warren and are voting Bernie in the MA primary. Pull back all the culture war bullshit and the working class people love Bernie.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 17:47:22 GMT -5
As a white Bernie bro, let me tell you the only people I know going for Biden/Warren over Bernie are cornball smarty pants whose cry about gentrification as they move into these new tax abated $2200 1BR apartments but still go into Boston every day for work and their night out. Their entire world view is shaped by making $45,000 instead of $35,000.
This milennial Linked In demographic can eat my ass.
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Post by pbcookies on Oct 15, 2019 18:07:16 GMT -5
I would say at this point, I think it's more likely that a third-tier candidate like Buttigieg or Harris would have some kind of surge and get the nom than it is that Sanders gets it.
I am not saying this as any kind of value judgment on Sanders, and as a matter of fact I like him more than those candidates. But he is 78 and just had a heart attack and that is an absolute inescapable reality, even before you bring any kind of policy discussion into it. He has a fervent baked-in 15-20% base of support, and then there are people that are less idealistic and more pragmatic. Over half of Democratic primary voters consider beating Trump the most important issue over any policy matter. It is simply a matter of common sense that somebody who is already a year past their statistical life expectancy doesn't stand a great chance of surviving their first term and that will only become more and more disqualifying as the field narrows.
It is perfectly fine to say you think Bernie is the best/your favorite candidate. I think it is quite different to say he has a good chance of getting the nom.
In the general election, I think it's kind of wacky to say Sanders has a better chance of peeling off Republicans than Biden or Warren, anecdotal accounts aside. I do think Sanders would perform best on a debate stage with Trump, but how many people actually change their votes because of a debate? Virtually no votes will be in play by that point.
I know this is rambling, but I guess I fail to see why liking Sanders the best means you have to state he's still in the race, which he kind of isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 18:09:56 GMT -5
Buttigieg has been dead on the inside his entire life and is polling abysmally.
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Post by immortalrites on Oct 15, 2019 18:12:10 GMT -5
I know this is rambling, but I guess I fail to see why liking Sanders the best means you have to state he's still in the race, which he kind of isn't. How is he less "in the race" than any of the other goofs that will be on that stage tomorrow night? My admittedly cynical personal apinion is he will not get the nomination via a convergence of a bunch of stupid ass reasons and political machinations but he's still very much "in the race".
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Post by Cholo Molester on Oct 15, 2019 18:14:00 GMT -5
idk why people who poll so low stay in the race. Is it their ego?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 18:14:31 GMT -5
They're careerists
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Post by pbcookies on Oct 15, 2019 18:15:13 GMT -5
I know this is rambling, but I guess I fail to see why liking Sanders the best means you have to state he's still in the race, which he kind of isn't. How is he less "in the race" than any of the other goofs that will be on that stage tomorrow night? My admittedly cynical personal apinion is he will not get the nomination via a convergence of a bunch of stupid ass reasons and political machinations but he's still very much "in the race". Because he has a dedicated base of support but no potential to break out the way the other do (as unlikely as that is) It will be Biden or Warren
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 18:16:25 GMT -5
I don't know if those two are exactly inspirational.
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Post by immortalrites on Oct 15, 2019 18:16:41 GMT -5
idk why people who poll so low stay in the race. Is it their ego? There's zero political or career penalty for having a pointless mockery of a presidential campaign now so you might as well gain national name recognition. Jay Inslee, governor of WA where I live, knew he was never getting a whiff of the nomination but he knows going on stage and shouting "Climate change!" over and over will benefit him. I'm sure he actually cares about it on whatever level, but it's a good career move.
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Post by pbcookies on Oct 15, 2019 18:17:51 GMT -5
I don't know if those two are exactly inspirational. AGAIN, I am not saying anything about the quality of any candidate, just the likelihood of what will happen
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Post by immortalrites on Oct 15, 2019 18:18:38 GMT -5
How is he less "in the race" than any of the other goofs that will be on that stage tomorrow night? My admittedly cynical personal apinion is he will not get the nomination via a convergence of a bunch of stupid ass reasons and political machinations but he's still very much "in the race". Because he has a dedicated base of support but no potential to break out the way the other do (as unlikely as that is) It will be Biden or Warren I guess I just don't get why you're dismissing anecdotes and stuff if your counter is basically just more or less your apinion and how you're reading the tea leaves compared to everyone else. These things aren't totally settled even if we all have our predictions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 18:18:53 GMT -5
I just don't see how it's likely that status quo candidates have a higher chance of bringing in new constituency.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 18:20:46 GMT -5
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Post by pbcookies on Oct 15, 2019 18:22:40 GMT -5
I just don't see how it's likely that status quo candidates have a higher chance of bringing in new constituency. The two frontrunners are likeliest to win for obvious reasons (because they're the most popular) If you look at favorable/unfavorable polling, almost all voters have an apinion on Biden, Warren, and Sanders (very few chose "no apinion"). They all have about the same favorable rating, but Sanders happens to have the highest unfavorable rating. In terms of the other candidates, many voters have no apinion on them (neither favorable or unfavorable), which is why I say they have the potential to break out, whereas Sanders does not, because voters largely have already made up their minds about him.
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Post by lobsterdog on Oct 15, 2019 18:23:42 GMT -5
a guy who is leading a number of state polls, which is how this stupid primary is decided, is still in the race until votes are cast and he doesn't win enough states.
this isnt hard.
this is all that needs to be said about mayor pete: he legit asked a UAW worker how much money they had left in their strike fund on camera.
the guy is fucking clueless and wouldnt piss on a working class voter if they were on fire. if you like this guy, fuck you, youre the enemy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 18:24:02 GMT -5
We've already established that his base isn't one easily tracked by polling. That's how he had upsets like Michigan -- that's a break out. Now, obviously he did not break out enough to win, but a break out nonetheless.
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Post by pbcookies on Oct 15, 2019 18:25:27 GMT -5
Will straight up take cash bets with anyone who thinks Bernie will be the nominee
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 18:26:01 GMT -5
I don't know if he will be the nominee, I am leaning towards no, but to say he has no break out potential is different.
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Post by pbcookies on Oct 15, 2019 18:26:36 GMT -5
PM me all bets
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 18:27:07 GMT -5
All I will say is whether he is the nominee or not, there will surely be fishy shit going on at the polls. #realconspiracyhours
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