☭POLITICS☭: Election Season Hell

[Sorley Boy]

Mar 1, 2023 11:28:47 GMT -5 Ted Mujint said:

Mar 1, 2023 10:50:52 GMT -5 @heckboy said:

Crazy how we Americans are 4.25% of the world population and yet we cause 100% of the worlds problems. Some food for thought.

and 21% of the world's incarcerated with 20% of the world's wealth. Canada has 1.2% of the world's wealth, by comparison. Do you feel 20 times richer than your Canadian neighbors?

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[Cholo Molester]

Ok I’m only gunna do a quick reply to Temujin cuz his post was good.

I don’t think multipolarity is the answer. Don’t get me wrong, obviously I want a world where all countries and nations have an equal say in global politics, but multipolarity as proposed by western anti-imperialista is just other powerful states having a greater share of geopolitical power and the cycle of imperliaism continues. It goes directly against Lenin’s theory of imperialism, and correct me if I’m wrong, but Mao’s theory of imperialism was just an extension of Lenin’s. Anyways, China and Russia aren’t opposing the US out of anti-imperialist sentiments, but rather because they want their own sphere of influence to become imperialist powers themselves, to secure the sources of surplus value and divide the natural resources of the world amongst themselves for their own interests, not that of the working class. If you want historical examples of what multipolarity has brought the world then look at 1756, 1914, and 1939.

Reducing the world to a black and white, good vs evil mindset is not going to help the working person and only adds fuel to the spreading wildfire that is fascism.

That doesn’t mean I support western hegemony either, this one gets murky and it’s a long conversation so I’d rather not even go there. I support the right to set determination of all ethnic and regional groups.

[gaygay]

Bump for a new page.

[anointed]

[Ted Mujint]

Mar 1, 2023 10:30:07 GMT -5 johnny two cool said:

Man, I’ll send a proposal for raised crosswalks to my local city council via email and think to myself, “this is it, this is the frickin long march.”

Temujin comes along and makes it clear I’m a poser.

(although I’ve got to disagree with the idea that the meaning of or causal relationships in capital-H History are simply given)

I am just as passionate about urbanism as I am anti-imperialism, and you best believe that I harass my city's traffic commission every now and them to remind them that they put the bike lanes in on the wrong side of the parking lane on my street. 

Basically, they converted a 4-lane avenue(two lanes of traffic going either way) to one lane going in either direction, a turn lane for both directions in the middle, a bike lane right beside the moving traffic, and the parked cars closest to the curb. 

Not only are the traffic lanes super, super wide now(thereby encouraging motorists to maintain the 50 mph speed limit further up the road, outside of the city), but this was all in response to a speeding incident involving the chief of the Fire Department striking and killing 3 little kids as they were trying to cross.

Protected bike lanes are 90% more likely to save lives than nothing and they cost literally the same to implement as the bike gutters they gave us. You'd think there'd be some incentive to do SOME research into this shit when there is a world class urban planning school as part of the university that is one of the major employers here lol.

[Ted Mujint]

Mar 1, 2023 11:55:41 GMT -5 Cholo Molester said:

Ok I’m only gunna do a quick reply to Temujin cuz his post was good.

I don’t think multipolarity is the answer. Don’t get me wrong, obviously I want a world where all countries and nations have an equal say in global politics, but multipolarity as proposed by western anti-imperialista is just other powerful states having a greater share of geopolitical power and the cycle of imperliaism continues. It goes directly against Lenin’s theory of imperialism, and correct me if I’m wrong, but Mao’s theory of imperialism was just an extension of Lenin’s. Anyways, China and Russia aren’t opposing the US out of anti-imperialist sentiments, but rather because they want their own sphere of influence to become imperialist powers themselves, to secure the sources of surplus value and divide the natural resources of the world amongst themselves for their own interests, not that of the working class. If you want historical examples of what multipolarity has brought the world then look at 1756, 1914, and 1939.

Reducing the world to a black and white, good vs evil mindset is not going to help the working person and only adds fuel to the spreading wildfire that is fascism.

That doesn’t mean I support western hegemony either, this one gets murky and it’s a long conversation so I’d rather not even go there. I support the right to set determination of all ethnic and regional groups.

I am under no delusion that the bourgeoisie in BRICS countries are interested in representing their various ethnic, linguistic, and other regional groups out of any kind of unified, ideological principle. They are opportunists just as ours are. But I do believe they are useful idiots when it comes to weakening our bourgeoisie's ability to respond to any revolutionary activity in our borders.

We're already seeing how the Biden administration's preoccupation with the Donbass proxy war has left them unable to respond to the train derailment disaster in East Palestine, OH. The left in this country is still in its infancy so we are not able to respond to crises like this, but Trump took advantage of the situation and used the moment as a PR stunt by sending tons of supplies down there.

Add a Taiwan front to the mix - it begs the question: is the US military industrial complex nimble enough to still mobilize against a mass uprising movement the scale of 2020's post-George Floyd murder protests? Maybe. But each time it comes back around, we're a little better at it, and our broad coalition of organizations knows a little more.

But you are obviously more well read than I am, and I treat all of the book recommendations you post like gold, fiction or non-fiction. I'm willing to learn more, but this is just where I'm at right now given my various experience(s).

[Sorley Boy]

[Cholo Molester]

Brother, I can assure you, you are more knowledgeable than I am. I got hard stuck in anarchism during my early 20s and it wasn’t until mid-late 20s that I really took Marxism serious.

Your analysis is good tho, that’s why I was responding to you. I would love to drink beers with you, listen to Depeche Mode, and talk about how cool Allende was.

[johnny two cool]

I sincerely believe that renewed urbanism is one of the most crucial components in improving the overall state of affairs in the U.S. and the world at large.

[Ted Mujint]

Mar 1, 2023 12:19:16 GMT -5 Cholo Molester said:

Brother, I can assure you, you are more knowledgeable than I am. I got hard stuck in anarchism during my early 20s and it wasn’t until mid-late 20s that I really took Marxism serious.

Your analysis is good tho, that’s why I was responding to you. I would love to drink beers with you, listen to Depeche Mode, and talk about how cool Allende was.

I'm not gonna lie tho, I took a similar path. My dad and grandparents were/are into radical politics and gave me my first copy of the Manifesto(a copy printed by the Communist Party of China in 1977 that my ex-gf still has T_T) but were pretty big libs here in America. I found punk, and got into anarchism and shit, but then I circled back to socialism in my 20s as well.

we should start a commie hc discord where we screen radical cinema and play various FPS games.... you know, revolutionary weapons training :P

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I have the secret discord

[Deleted]

"Add a Taiwan front to the mix - it begs the question: is the US military industrial complex nimble enough to still mobilize against a mass uprising movement the scale of 2020's post-George Floyd murder protests? Maybe. But each time it comes back around, we're a little better at it, and our broad coalition of organizations knows a little more. "

The answer is yes and to think otherwise - that in fact each protest has the chance to do something more is simply delusions of grandeur.

[Cholo Molester]

Imagine if instead of protesting the American proletariat just did nothing for like 2 or 3 days. No going to work. No shopping. No protesting. Just a refusal to play the game. 3 days of doing nothing would be more economically devastating to the ruling class than any protest ever could be.

[anointed]

god stfu already

proletariat, hegemony, work surplus value, the game. you guys are so goddamn gay it's actually sad.

[Cholo Molester]

Every time I call into work I'm defying the capitalist machine by refusing to participate in the accumulation of surplus value. I am a modern revolutionary. Instead of a hammer and sickle, the tools of my liberation will be calling in and smoking mad dense nuggs of fat buds on my couch while I play some videogames.

[anointed]

lol telegraphed it

[johnny two cool]

I hope I'm not one of the "you guys"

[dmk]

I really hate that that I can't find a clip of Ricky from the Trailer Park Boys saying "quit using those big school words and just use normal people words" cause I've wanted to use it so many times itt

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Spoken like a true lumpen prole.

[itii]

Mar 1, 2023 13:56:37 GMT -5 anointed said:

god stfu already

proletariat, hegemony, work surplus value, the game. you guys are so goddamn gay (in a good way) it's actually sad.

Somebody not get there pump in today or is it just that point in the cycle?

[Ted Mujint]

Mar 1, 2023 13:42:47 GMT -5 @heckboy said:

"Add a Taiwan front to the mix - it begs the question: is the US military industrial complex nimble enough to still mobilize against a mass uprising movement the scale of 2020's post-George Floyd murder protests? Maybe. But each time it comes back around, we're a little better at it, and our broad coalition of organizations knows a little more. "

The answer is yes and to think otherwise - that in fact each protest has the chance to do something more is simply delusions of grandeur.

Okay, so what historical precedent is there to that claim?

USSR was born in part due to Imperial Russia's ambitions in WWI, after losing the Russo-Japanese War, and after the first attempted revolution in 1905. There is a direct line of causation between tying the French bourgeois revolution, and then the Paris Commune and this point in history.

Proletarian revolution in China happened because because of complications from WWII's complicated network of alliances. The US was busy trying to reproduce the colonial power structures that that had taken from the Japanese, and put all their eggs in Chiang Kai-shek's loser basket. You could also say that this was inspired by the wave of revolutions that 1917 started all over the world.

We have spent the last 12 years getting our asses handed to us by the Russians in Syria, so you just *have a feeling* that things are going to be different when it's not a proxy war? We also lost a horribly embarrassing defeat in Afghanistan and are steadily losing the war on drugs. We had the Iraq War era anti-war movement, which held the largest anti-war demonstrations in human history. This was the organizing foundation for the current gen of left orgs in the United States, and was the catalyst behind Occupy 10 years after that, and that evolved into BLM after Ferguson.

Before Sanders in '16, it was outside of cultural norms to even talk about socialism. Reactionaries would tell you that the hammer and sickle were the equivalent to the swastika. There are more Americans reading Karl Marx, Lenin, Amilcar Cabral, Franz Fanon, Eric Hobsbawm, etc. than ever before. So what do you think this loose network is going to be called and look like when it bounces back in another 10 years?

[johnny two cool]

Mar 1, 2023 0:28:33 GMT -5 internetbully said:

I wish I wasn’t tired from working all the time so I could read Marxist theory

Feb 28, 2023 19:08:56 GMT -5 Ass Dan said:

The best prescriptive philosophy is Bertrand Russell’s essay “Fuck Work, Let’s Party”

harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/

[Porch Honky]

It's Britney bitch.

[anointed]

Mar 1, 2023 14:16:28 GMT -5 itii said:

Mar 1, 2023 13:56:37 GMT -5 anointed said:

god stfu already

proletariat, hegemony, work surplus value, the game. you guys are so goddamn gay (in a good way) (in a good way) it's actually sad.

Somebody not get there pump in today or is it just that point in the cycle?

i'm always pumped baby, don't you worry about me

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Mar 1, 2023 14:17:19 GMT -5 johnny two cool said:

Mar 1, 2023 0:28:33 GMT -5 internetbully said:

I wish I wasn’t tired from working all the time so I could read Marxist theory

Feb 28, 2023 19:08:56 GMT -5 Ass Dan said:

The best prescriptive philosophy is Bertrand Russell’s essay “Fuck Work, Let’s Party”

harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/

IIRC, that Russell collection opens with an essay about the apricot and why it's important to know it was named for being a 'precocious' fruit. Maybe it improves from there - don't remember.

[gaygay]

Is Britney's track jacket military issued?

[Cholo Molester]

Trump vs DeSantis is gunna be so lit. 🔥

[Ted Mujint]

Mar 1, 2023 14:24:06 GMT -5 gaygay said:

Is Britney's track jacket military issued?

yes

[gaygay]

Adidas Gazelles? That's party.

[Ted Mujint]

man all the images are broken now on this article, but they're bootleg gazelles that the soviet gov't made lol

www.highsnobiety.com/p/mockba-russian-adidas-sneakers/