☭POLITICS☭: Election Season Hell

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I saw a fleeing car of Palestinians get shot my a tank

[Porch Honky]

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[Percussionist Foster Grant]

Durham? Sounds made up! Fake news.

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Apparently the Democrats' 2024 strategy is culture wars, abortion, and Trump

So their strategy is the same for the last six years. At some point, they realize they actually have to do SOMETHING to benefit their voters, right?

[johnny two cool]

I mean… they do

[Percussionist Foster Grant]

To be fair they can coast on lowering the price of insulin, job growth, easing student loan payments, their COVID response/vaccine rollout vs Trump's and their support for Ukraine. It's not a lot but it's a lot better than Trump could attest to when he ran again.

The Dems strategy is basically gesture at the GOP and say "are you seeing this shit?"

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Job growth means nothing in the context of wage stagnation (which is doubly worse in the face of inflation) and cost of living skyrocketing. It just means people are getting second jobs to survive. That's a bullshit stat.

[Porch Honky]

Yep I work at a job currently where everyone on the staff has a second job rn.

[itii]

Oct 30, 2023 13:46:58 GMT -5 @jamesk said:

Job growth means nothing in the context of wage stagnation (which is doubly worse in the face of inflation) and cost of living skyrocketing. It just means people are getting second jobs to survive. That's a bullshit stat.

Actual inflation and rising cost of living expenses has slowed substantially, people are partially just refusing to accept that market changed since the pandemic and their spending patterns have not changed. Even though the supply chain is back on line, companies aren't gunna roll back prices that people are still paying just so they can make less money. Bitching about how it's the governments responsibility to give me back the things I'm used to isn't how government works either.

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Oct 30, 2023 13:55:29 GMT -5 itii said:

Oct 30, 2023 13:46:58 GMT -5 @jamesk said:

Job growth means nothing in the context of wage stagnation (which is doubly worse in the face of inflation) and cost of living skyrocketing. It just means people are getting second jobs to survive. That's a bullshit stat.

Actual inflation and rising cost of living expenses has slowed substantially, people are partially just refusing to accept that market changed since the pandemic and their spending patterns have not changed. Even though the supply chain is back on line, companies aren't gunna roll back prices that people are still paying just so they can make less money. Bitching about how it's the governments responsibility to give me back the things I'm used to isn't how government works either.

holy fucking shit tim i hate you so much

[itii]

Oct 30, 2023 13:56:14 GMT -5 @jamesk said:

Oct 30, 2023 13:55:29 GMT -5 itii said:

Actual inflation and rising cost of living expenses has slowed substantially, people are partially just refusing to accept that market changed since the pandemic and their spending patterns have not changed. Even though the supply chain is back on line, companies aren't gunna roll back prices that people are still paying just so they can make less money. Bitching about how it's the governments responsibility to give me back the things I'm used to isn't how government works either.

holy fucking shit tim i hate you so much

I still love you 🤗

[bonerinsweatpants]

ultimately it comes down to the economy. Dems can throw whatever stats and figures to the voters (that matter) but until they see it with their own eyes they wont believe it.

[johnny two cool]

Democrats represent the prudent wing of the ruling class. As an organization, they might not do much that’s on the radar of childless bohemian thirty-somethings, but that’s not really a demographic that is as politically relevant as it thinks it is.

The GOP has become so stubbornly hard-rocking that they can’t even do normal ass quid pro quo self-interest stuff anymore. Shit, Jim Jordan’s opposition to the war in Ukraine is directly in contradiction to the economic health of his district, where one of the only major industries providing gainful employment is an arms factory. House GOP is conjuring up bizarre requirements for agency research departments. Go down to the local level and you’ll see the same shit: a small largely powerless transit agency like Indianapolis’s IndyGo had to argue with a dumbass state senator about what qualifies as tax dollars because he claimed that competitive federal grant money counts. It doesn’t and never has.

Democrats suck, but if you can’t tell the difference it’s because you know jack shit about how your government at the local, municipal, state, and federal level actually works.

[Percussionist Foster Grant]

Oct 30, 2023 13:46:58 GMT -5 @jamesk said:

Job growth means nothing in the context of wage stagnation (which is doubly worse in the face of inflation) and cost of living skyrocketing. It just means people are getting second jobs to survive. That's a bullshit stat.

Not saying it's a relevant stat, just saying what they're gonna say. It's just like Trump claiming he inherited a terrible economy: Not true but the people who WANTto believe it believe it.

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Oct 30, 2023 14:09:58 GMT -5 Percussionist Foster Grant said:

Oct 30, 2023 13:46:58 GMT -5 @jamesk said:

Job growth means nothing in the context of wage stagnation (which is doubly worse in the face of inflation) and cost of living skyrocketing. It just means people are getting second jobs to survive. That's a bullshit stat.

Not saying it's a relevant stat, just saying what they're gonna say. It's just like Trump claiming he inherited a terrible economy: Not true but the people who WANTto believe it believe it.

he didnt help his case by always mentioning that the stock market was the best ever 

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Oct 30, 2023 5:33:17 GMT -5 @botb4000 said:

Yo so did the baby get cooked in the oven or not

yeah with garlic sauce

[Porch Honky]

[Ass Dan]

Median wage growth has been the highest it has been since the late 1990’s during Biden’s term.

This “economy is horrible” narrative is largely driven by people’s political preferences. When you ask people how they themselves are doing they overwhelmingly answer positively.

[bonerinsweatpants]

Oct 30, 2023 15:04:28 GMT -5 Ass Dan said:

Median wage growth has been the highest it has been since the late 1990’s during Biden’s term.

This “economy is horrible” narrative is largely driven by people’s political preferences. When you ask people how they themselves are doing they overwhelmingly answer positively.

i typically like to see data/responses from people who fall below the so called "middle class" bc economy/inflation etc affects them more. if you just ask a normie of course theyll say things are fine and and economy is good. 

[Ass Dan]

[johnny two cool]

I would say that shit sucks more than you would expect if you fall into certain demographics. If I were in my same situation but had more financial and personal responsibilities, I’d be screaming. My family’s healthy, though, and my girlfriend and I share a car (well will be sharing a car) that we use as little as possible.

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Oct 30, 2023 15:04:28 GMT -5 Ass Dan said:

Median wage growth has been the highest it has been since the late 1990’s during Biden’s term.

This “economy is horrible” narrative is largely driven by people’s political preferences. When you ask people how they themselves are doing they overwhelmingly answer positively.

it’s horrible

[killedbyboard]

It's been pretty eye opening to see in real time that the economy actually sucks MORE when more people are working, and that the system crumbles apart without high unemployment. Like, if the economy is only good when there is more human suffering, that's a pretty scathing indictment of the whole system, and Gen Z and Gen Alpha are becoming acutely aware of that.

[johnny two cool]

There’s also workforce bottleneck that younger millennials and gen z are experiencing the brunt of. You’re, like, 22 and competing with the 35 year old version of yourself for the exact same jobs.

[AL]

Hey Biden, make the economy good again!

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We don’t even have soviets or five year plans to overhaul the economy away from fossil fuels this shit is trash

[bonerinsweatpants]

Oct 30, 2023 15:46:52 GMT -5 killedbyboard said:

It's been pretty eye opening to see in real time that the economy actually sucks MORE when more people are working, and that the system crumbles apart without high unemployment. Like, if the economy is only good when there is more human suffering, that's a pretty scathing indictment of the whole system, and Gen Z and Gen Alpha are becoming acutely aware of that.

but the graph of the broad democrat landscape says the economy is good!

[Frederik]

The NYT is running articles like "How living in your car makes housing affordable", but yes, the economy is fine.

[johnny two cool]

Oct 30, 2023 15:55:16 GMT -5 @whatifseanwasoneofus said:

We don’t even have soviets or five year plans to overhaul the economy away from fossil fuels this shit is trash

we do in California.

Come, sean.

[bonerinsweatpants]

just cut back on streaming services