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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 0:38:28 GMT -5
Maine communists better have a cool flag with a lobster. Probably just a bunch of dorks handing out The Daily Worker tho. our paper is called people’s world get it right
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Post by Sorley Boy on Jan 8, 2024 1:33:23 GMT -5
To be fair Pat if that person shaved and wen't to Lane Bryant they wouldn't look that different from some of the women you've said you're attracted to.
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Post by 𝖒𝖊𝖔𝖜𝖋𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 on Jan 8, 2024 1:35:20 GMT -5
omg
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 1:40:40 GMT -5
Discuss these issues and more: join the communist party today
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Post by meatballmaniac on Jan 8, 2024 12:47:27 GMT -5
I love to party
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Post by Ted Mujint on Jan 8, 2024 13:04:28 GMT -5
Communism is cool in all but, as a pragmatist with intellectual roots in Foucault, Hegel, and the third generation of the Frankfurt School, I am suspicious of all endeavors to remake man in the image of his own thought This is the utility of Marxism-Leninism. The genius of Marx and Engels gave us the science of dialectical materialism with which we understand this world and the shortcomings of previous economic systems. Lenin gave us the framework that we use to apply that science to the real, material world. To remake man in the image of his own thought is to engage in idealism. While it could be considered communism or socialism, it's not Marxism!
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Post by anointed on Jan 8, 2024 13:06:21 GMT -5
what do communists say about snitching?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 13:17:34 GMT -5
lol @ Netanyahu asking the UAE to cover three months of lost wages for 100,000 Palestinians in the West Bank only for the UAE to tell Netanyahu to ask Zelenskyy for money lol
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Post by johnny two cool on Jan 8, 2024 14:00:42 GMT -5
Communism is cool in all but, as a pragmatist with intellectual roots in Foucault, Hegel, and the third generation of the Frankfurt School, I am suspicious of all endeavors to remake man in the image of his own thought This is the utility of Marxism-Leninism. The genius of Marx and Engels gave us the science of dialectical materialism with which we understand this world and the shortcomings of previous economic systems. Lenin gave us the framework that we use to apply that science to the real, material world. To remake man in the image of his own thought is to engage in idealism. While it could be considered communism or socialism, it's not Marxism! Never been able to quite grasp the science-y part of dialectical materialism, but I’m gonna tackle Marx’s Capital this year so maybe then I’ll have a better grasp on it. A lot of the ML stuff online is hard to figure out(they say stuff critical of metaphysics and then do what looks like metaphysics to me, b/c the term has a different meaning in their usage).
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Post by johnny two cool on Jan 8, 2024 17:39:23 GMT -5
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Post by gaygay on Jan 8, 2024 17:46:00 GMT -5
lol so if she WAS a man, what then? Why are they so obsessed with this, Obama's birth certificate, Hillary emails, etc...
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Post by tandoori jones on Jan 8, 2024 17:47:04 GMT -5
lol so if she WAS a man, what then? Why are they so obsessed with this, Obama's birth certificate, Hillary emails, etc... that’s the best part. like if she comes out tomorrow and says “yeah i got a dick” does it nullify obamas presidency? what’s the end game
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Post by gaygay on Jan 8, 2024 17:51:44 GMT -5
Like, conceivably it just lends itself to lots of "SEE, I TOLD YOU, OBAMA FUCKS MEN" and then... what then? Whole thing can be filtered down to "we get to load more dirt on the president we don't like for being a f*ggot" basically, which like... damn, y'all got em on that one lol
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Post by bonerinsweatpants on Jan 8, 2024 17:52:50 GMT -5
A Kenyan that marries a transmission cannot be president! 8 years are voided out!
edit: lol sentence spice for t.ranny
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Post by anointed on Jan 8, 2024 17:54:18 GMT -5
mitchell obama the trans kenyan
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Post by itii on Jan 8, 2024 17:57:41 GMT -5
I'm proud to live in a country that elected a pansexual black man, his trans partner and adopted children to the highest political position in the west, not once but twice.
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Post by anointed on Jan 8, 2024 17:58:37 GMT -5
implying they were elected lol
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Post by johnny two cool on Jan 8, 2024 18:00:49 GMT -5
The Hilary emails were weird
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Post by johnny two cool on Jan 8, 2024 18:02:05 GMT -5
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Post by meatballmaniac on Jan 8, 2024 18:15:19 GMT -5
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Post by Ass Dan on Jan 8, 2024 21:16:15 GMT -5
lol so if she WAS a man, what then? Why are they so obsessed with this, Obama's birth certificate, Hillary emails, etc... They think anyone famous made a pact with the devil and turned trans as a result. It’s deranged.
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Post by FEMA Sniper on Jan 8, 2024 21:31:14 GMT -5
Maine communists better have a cool flag with a lobster. Probably just a bunch of dorks handing out The Daily Worker tho. our paper is called people’s world get it right Post it. I want to read.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 21:33:34 GMT -5
www.peoplesworld.org/Here u go make sure to send this to everyone you know and tell them it’s a chain mail message
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Post by cfloyd3 on Jan 9, 2024 8:37:41 GMT -5
Probably just a bunch of dorks handing out The Daily Worker tho. You look different than I remember
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Post by Pat on Jan 9, 2024 12:26:42 GMT -5
That's me as an indoor gamer boi.
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Post by Ted Mujint on Jan 9, 2024 12:40:37 GMT -5
This is the utility of Marxism-Leninism. The genius of Marx and Engels gave us the science of dialectical materialism with which we understand this world and the shortcomings of previous economic systems. Lenin gave us the framework that we use to apply that science to the real, material world. To remake man in the image of his own thought is to engage in idealism. While it could be considered communism or socialism, it's not Marxism! Never been able to quite grasp the science-y part of dialectical materialism, but I’m gonna tackle Marx’s Capital this year so maybe then I’ll have a better grasp on it. A lot of the ML stuff online is hard to figure out(they say stuff critical of metaphysics and then do what looks like metaphysics to me, b/c the term has a different meaning in their usage). I think that the primary difference between what is considered metaphysics in general academia/philosophy is much broader than what MLs use the term to describe. You are absolutely correct in saying that it's an operationalized definition. The primary difference in a dialectical materialist analysis is that what I'm going to call traditional Aristotelian logic hinges on the apinion that the world is shaped by ideas, rather than the world and its systems shaping the ideas of man(the ML view) - to be honest I haven't read the totality of Capital, only studied it in parts and referenced it. A lot of it is definitely a slog because it's a lot of breakdowns of the logic and premises used in arguments that I find more easily digestible in writings like the manifesto or Wage Labour & Capital. Basically, pre-Marx, the most important driving factor of "truth" was this thing that we call "mind". In Marx, we derive truth from not only what we experience in the real world, but by bringing these rudimentary, rough ideas into the marketplace of ideas by discussing with our comrades. I feel like even Hegel is still with the Greeks and Second Enlightenment thinkers as far as the whole "mind" thing is concerned. This book was invaluable in my understanding of Marxism because it provides three different perspectives on the same issues using the same toolset - but in the different stages of the development of Marxism. www.intpubnyc.com/browse/reader-in-marxist-philosophy/Take what I say with a grain of salt though, I'm not a philosopher anymore, nor am I an academic. I'm just a tradesman who likes to read this shit for whatever reason.
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Post by Cholo Molester on Jan 9, 2024 12:52:05 GMT -5
This is the utility of Marxism-Leninism. The genius of Marx and Engels gave us the science of dialectical materialism with which we understand this world and the shortcomings of previous economic systems. Lenin gave us the framework that we use to apply that science to the real, material world. To remake man in the image of his own thought is to engage in idealism. While it could be considered communism or socialism, it's not Marxism! Never been able to quite grasp the science-y part of dialectical materialism, but I’m gonna tackle Marx’s Capital this year so maybe then I’ll have a better grasp on it. A lot of the ML stuff online is hard to figure out(they say stuff critical of metaphysics and then do what looks like metaphysics to me, b/c the term has a different meaning in their usage). Capital is kind of a chore to read at parts, but I’d highly recommend Michael Heinrich’s “How to Read Marx’s Capital” that one really helped me understand the importance of exchange for the abstraction from concrete labor, as well as commodity fetishism, which might be one of the most important but most misunderstood subjects in Capital. 👍🏽 Edit* I have a copy of Heinrich’s book that I’d be happy to send your way.
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Post by johnny two cool on Jan 9, 2024 13:15:41 GMT -5
Never been able to quite grasp the science-y part of dialectical materialism, but I’m gonna tackle Marx’s Capital this year so maybe then I’ll have a better grasp on it. A lot of the ML stuff online is hard to figure out(they say stuff critical of metaphysics and then do what looks like metaphysics to me, b/c the term has a different meaning in their usage). I think that the primary difference between what is considered metaphysics in general academia/philosophy is much broader than what MLs use the term to describe. You are absolutely correct in saying that it's an operationalized definition. The primary difference in a dialectical materialist analysis is that what I'm going to call traditional Aristotelian logic hinges on the apinion that the world is shaped by ideas, rather than the world and its systems shaping the ideas of man(the ML view) - to be honest I haven't read the totality of Capital, only studied it in parts and referenced it. A lot of it is definitely a slog because it's a lot of breakdowns of the logic and premises used in arguments that I find more easily digestible in writings like the manifesto or Wage Labour & Capital. Basically, pre-Marx, the most important driving factor of "truth" was this thing that we call "mind". In Marx, we derive truth from not only what we experience in the real world, but by bringing these rudimentary, rough ideas into the marketplace of ideas by discussing with our comrades. I feel like even Hegel is still with the Greeks and Second Enlightenment thinkers as far as the whole "mind" thing is concerned. This book was invaluable in my understanding of Marxism because it provides three different perspectives on the same issues using the same toolset - but in the different stages of the development of Marxism. www.intpubnyc.com/browse/reader-in-marxist-philosophy/Take what I say with a grain of salt though, I'm not a philosopher anymore, nor am I an academic. I'm just a tradesman who likes to read this shit for whatever reason. Word, thanks to you n Mr. Molester. The basics I get (“Marx turns Hegel on his head”). I dunno if I think that reading of Hegel’s practical rationality and truth is quite right, though. Hegel and that whole subsequent train of thought wouldn’t consider “truth” as separable from “the marketplace of ideas” in such a clearcut way — They are far too insistent on the social being prior to the individual. For Hegel (and I assume Marx as well…?), “Humans are, and are wholly and essentially, always under way historically and socially, and even in their attempts to reason what anyone, any time ought to do, they do so from an institutional position” (Pippin, Hegel’s Practical Rationality, p. 265). So, to say that something is true is immediately contestable simply because you are making a truth-claim. Fuck I gotta get back to work.
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Post by Sorley Boy on Jan 9, 2024 13:22:15 GMT -5
Guess the libs finally banned consumption of dog meat in South Korea. Fucked up for those of us who wish to partake.
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