☭POLITICS☭: Election Season Hell

[Ass Dan]

Managerial Class basically refers to college educated people who aren’t super rich. Government employees, teachers, etc. A lot of capitalists hate them because they’ve actually figured out how to leverage their power to create change. Obviously a lot of that change is cosmetic but rich guys don’t like their power being challenged at all.

At the end of the day the managerial class is our only hope because collective action problems are hard and they get harder the bigger the group of people you need to collectively act gets.

[AL]

Jan 22, 2024 16:00:43 GMT -5 johnny two cool said:

We must turn away from all projects that claim to be global or radical. In fact we know from experience that the claim to escape from the system of contemporary reality so as to produce the overall programs of another society, of another way of thinking, another culture, another vision of the world, has led only to the return of the most dangerous traditions.

I prefer the very specific transformations that have proved to be possible in the last twen'ty years in a certain number of areas that concern our ways of being and thinking, relations to authority, relations between the sexes, the way in which we perceive insanity or illness; I prefer even these partial transformations that have been made in the correlation of historical analysis and the practical attitude, to the programs for a new man that the worst political systems have repeated throughout the twen'tieth century.

what is this shit? all I said was that it's important to believe a better world is possible

[Percussionist Foster Grant]

[Sorley Boy]

I will not be voting for the imperialist criminal Biden in November, but only because I live in NY and can afford to be precious.

[johnny two cool]

Jan 22, 2024 16:15:54 GMT -5 AL said:

Jan 22, 2024 16:00:43 GMT -5 johnny two cool said:

We must turn away from all projects that claim to be global or radical. In fact we know from experience that the claim to escape from the system of contemporary reality so as to produce the overall programs of another society, of another way of thinking, another culture, another vision of the world, has led only to the return of the most dangerous traditions.

I prefer the very specific transformations that have proved to be possible in the last twen'ty years in a certain number of areas that concern our ways of being and thinking, relations to authority, relations between the sexes, the way in which we perceive insanity or illness; I prefer even these partial transformations that have been made in the correlation of historical analysis and the practical attitude, to the programs for a new man that the worst political systems have repeated throughout the twen'tieth century.

what is this shit? all I said was that it's important to believe a better world is possible

Was ist Aufklärung, mein freund!

[Ted Mujint]

Jan 22, 2024 14:44:45 GMT -5 Cholo Molester said:

Honestly I’d take Narc’s pragmatic stances itt over Sean’s revolutionary fantasy which would just result in the senseless loss of life. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Come wake me up when there is an actual labor movement in America instead of some tribal idealogical circle jerk.

Idk if I agree with the characterization that there isn't currently an actual labor movement at the moment. We're hot off the heels of the big UAW and WGA strikes, a number of huge university strikes, a ton of healthcare worker strikes all over the country.

It isn't that it's not happening. It's just not the norm for radicals to be organized yet, therefore, radical organizations aren't tapping into this movement and giving it ideological teeth yet.

The nurses at RWJ in my city have been extremely receptive to PSL's involvement with their now 200+ day strike, and in turn, a number of the nurses have either joined our ranks or are gearing up to campaign for our presidential candidate.

[johnny two cool]

There’s a strike going on at my campus rn. I gave em a thumbs up n shit

[itii]

Jan 22, 2024 16:25:47 GMT -5 Sorley Boy said:

I will not be voting for the imperialist criminal Biden in November, but only because I live in NY and can afford to be precious.

Lucky. I have to vote sleepy joe bc this is finally the year that texas actually turns blue

[Ted Mujint]

Labor movement has never been stronger in my memory tbh. And more young people than ever in the West support at least socialist policy and the labor movement. There is a small but growing minority of alt-rightish movements amongst young people, but they are statedly outcasts in society.

Say what you will about social media, but it makes public apinion a lot more important than whatever propaganda we've been forced to ingest in the past.

[Magnum P.P.]

i am a pragmatist and thats why i believe we should just hit cops with bricks loot stores and set shit on fire forever

[Tstigz]

Pragmatits

[itii]

Jan 22, 2024 16:35:40 GMT -5 Magnum P.P. said:

i am a pragmatist and thats why i believe we should just hit cops with bricks loot stores and set shit on fire forever

Lucky for you, capitalism will always need an agitator class as an excuse to restrict the rights of it's laborers

[johnny two cool]

fuckin der Pöbel und der reicher Pöbel

[Osama Vinladen Jiménez López🎅🎄]

Jan 22, 2024 14:02:05 GMT -5 @notsean said:

Biden is a communist

[meatballmaniac]

BI-DEN!
BI-DEN!
BI-DEN!
BI-DEN!

I’m ridin’ with Biden

Cool aviator sunglasses

[johnny two cool]

thepointmag.com/politics/capitalism-at-dusk/

Finally, as we have seen, Hegel’s approach investigates the social bonds necessary at a time for a society to generate allegiance to a regime and a social order, and so to be able to inspire sacrifices for it when required. I have been concentrating on the potential ethical harms to individuals that worried Hegel even before Fordism and a massive expansion of the productive power of capitalism would greatly exacerbate those dangers. But if Hegel is right about the harm done by inequality in the social bases of self-respect, and so the lack of standing, acknowledgment and recognition that for him are essential to a free and thus worthy life, we should certainly expect that harm to have disastrous consequences for the social bond itself. It could easily promote a culture of grievance, resentment, suspicion, paranoia and various compensatory pathologies, all the way to what are now rightly described as “deaths of despair.”

We have been experiencing for several years now the political consequences of such a culture of grievance driven by an “unleashed” globalized attempt at the maximization of profit. For reasons we have been exploring, it would also be a great mistake to think of all of this as remediable by greater income equality alone (however important that is) or the “return” of supposedly wonderful and fulfilling “factory jobs,” or some supposed liberation from work itself. Without a greatly reformed economic system in which men and women can come to feel respected for meaningful work, we should also expect that it will be hard to persuade anyone of the value of sacrificing much of anything for the sake of a social whole they do not experience themselves as a real part of. Appealing only to self-interest and the interests of loved ones has always been an argument with very little appeal to those who are willing to “take their chances,” and it implicitly concedes there is no basis in our social world for a wider appeal. In that case, we could expect there to be dangerous and widespread noncompliance, and thoughtless impatience from populist political leaders whose rise was fueled by such resentment, should there ever be a need to ask for sacrifices, for example, like lockdowns and quarantines in the case of a global pandemic.

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Jan 22, 2024 14:44:45 GMT -5 Cholo Molester said:

Honestly I’d take Narc’s pragmatic stances itt over Sean’s revolutionary fantasy which would just result in the senseless loss of life. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Come wake me up when there is an actual labor movement in America instead of some tribal idealogical circle jerk.

"u’r a fascist communist and your fantasies all consist of homosexual sexual acts" you right now

[Sorley Boy]

Let's chill with the homophobia please Sean.

[Deleted]

I’m about to get lawyerphobic in two seconds

[Pat]

Jan 22, 2024 16:59:48 GMT -5 @notsean said:

I’m about to get lawyerphobic in two seconds

That's not gonna help you get the counsel you want

[AL]

Jan 22, 2024 16:59:48 GMT -5 @notsean said:

I’m about to get lawyerphobic in two seconds

cheftony ass post

[johnny two cool]

Jan 22, 2024 17:23:44 GMT -5 AL said:

Jan 22, 2024 16:59:48 GMT -5 @notsean said:

I’m about to get lawyerphobic in two seconds

cheftony ass post

[Cholo Molester]

Jan 22, 2024 16:32:45 GMT -5 Ted Mujint said:

Jan 22, 2024 14:44:45 GMT -5 Cholo Molester said:

Honestly I’d take Narc’s pragmatic stances itt over Sean’s revolutionary fantasy which would just result in the senseless loss of life. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Come wake me up when there is an actual labor movement in America instead of some tribal idealogical circle jerk.

Idk if I agree with the characterization that there isn't currently an actual labor movement at the moment. We're hot off the heels of the big UAW and WGA strikes, a number of huge university strikes, a ton of healthcare worker strikes all over the country.

It isn't that it's not happening. It's just not the norm for radicals to be organized yet, therefore, radical organizations aren't tapping into this movement and giving it ideological teeth yet.

The nurses at RWJ in my city have been extremely receptive to PSL's involvement with their now 200+ day strike, and in turn, a number of the nurses have either joined our ranks or are gearing up to campaign for our presidential candidate.

I would like to agree that there is a growing labor movement, especially with the recent strikes, but the truth is that unions are at the weakest they've ever been, they have the lowest membership rates in history, and even though over 90% Americans approve of unions, we have to deal with the fact that half of all Americans work for a small business with no path of unionization at the moment. I think we have a long way to go before we can say there is a national labor movement happening. 

[Deleted]

Jan 22, 2024 16:32:45 GMT -5 Ted Mujint said:

Jan 22, 2024 14:44:45 GMT -5 Cholo Molester said:

Honestly I’d take Narc’s pragmatic stances itt over Sean’s revolutionary fantasy which would just result in the senseless loss of life. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Come wake me up when there is an actual labor movement in America instead of some tribal idealogical circle jerk.

Idk if I agree with the characterization that there isn't currently an actual labor movement at the moment. We're hot off the heels of the big UAW and WGA strikes, a number of huge university strikes, a ton of healthcare worker strikes all over the country.

It isn't that it's not happening. It's just not the norm for radicals to be organized yet, therefore, radical organizations aren't tapping into this movement and giving it ideological teeth yet.

The nurses at RWJ in my city have been extremely receptive to PSL's involvement with their now 200+ day strike, and in turn, a number of the nurses have either joined our ranks or are gearing up to campaign for our presidential candidate.

exactly right. Will we sit around and talk about what may never come to fruition or will we be about it?

[Deleted]

I can never tell if SK’s random pot shots are serious or not but they must come to an end!!! Might I remind you I was fired for trying to organize a union. I am in an organization and have been very active with it lately. How’s that “idealistic” chump????? Go fuck ya self kid!!!!! Or quit being an online instigator and join us!!!

[Porch Honky]

Most of us can't get fired cause we're not slumdog art majors.

[Deleted]

Jan 22, 2024 17:42:16 GMT -5 Porch Honky said:

Most of us can't get fired cause we're not slumdog art majors.

i have four roommates and i have zero savings what is this the oppression olympics

I apologize if you weren't talking to me but seeing as your post came after mine.......................

[SUN HIT FACE]

Jan 22, 2024 16:35:40 GMT -5 Magnum P.P. said:

i am a pragmatist and thats why i believe we should just hit cops with bricks loot stores and set shit on fire forever

Anarchy in the U.K. TWU

[Porch Honky]

[Deleted]

Disdain for art workers is not good

www.peoplesworld.org/article/art-is-labor-so-why-arent-musicians-and-other-artists-viewed-as-workers/