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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 10:36:38 GMT -5
"Compared with the good Mr. Biden can do, the cost of dismissing Tara Reade — and, worse, weakening the voices of future survivors — is worth it."
Holy shit, lmao.
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Post by Percussionist Foster Grant on May 6, 2020 10:37:18 GMT -5
Biden's handlers should just let him go full crazy until the election. I fully expect him to openly swear at Trump during the debates, maybe even wander over to Trump's podium to poke him in the chest while reprimanding him for something.
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Post by fuzzyslippers on May 6, 2020 10:39:16 GMT -5
that's one hell of a quote, good lord
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Post by Frederik on May 6, 2020 10:39:41 GMT -5
You can’t? It’s pretty obvious that the media doesn’t give an actual fuck about Tara Reade. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 10:53:17 GMT -5
You can’t? It’s pretty obvious that the media doesn’t give an actual fuck about Tara Reade. Hmm, more so that I can't believe they're actually saying it out loud for all to see. |
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Post by Frederik on May 6, 2020 11:01:50 GMT -5
You can’t? It’s pretty obvious that the media doesn’t give an actual fuck about Tara Reade. Hmm, more so that I can't believe they're actually saying it out loud for all to see. The Khalessi Elizabeth Warren said she believes Biden over Reade, so people can basically say whatever they want now. No one gives a shit. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 11:02:26 GMT -5
Nothing matters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Percussionist Foster Grant on May 6, 2020 11:20:22 GMT -5
It don't matter. None a this matters.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 11:21:41 GMT -5
I'll tell you what matters, parkour.
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Post by Chris on May 6, 2020 11:25:33 GMT -5
I'll tell you what matters, grilling. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 11:26:30 GMT -5
Very nice
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Post by refill on May 6, 2020 11:32:33 GMT -5
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Post by Daytona 500 on May 6, 2020 11:43:51 GMT -5
It’s because they all think the problem is solely trump. Which I guess it is for the neolibs. He’s saying all the things the subscribe to, but were meant for behind closed doors only.
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Post by DAYMAN on May 6, 2020 11:49:36 GMT -5
It don't matter. None a this matters. Never cared for what they do Never cared for what they know But I knowwwwwwww YEAHHHUHHH |
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Post by bonerinsweatpants on May 6, 2020 11:52:59 GMT -5
i LOVEEEEEE how all these so called feminists are cherry picking their feminist leanings just because they want to vote for the "greater good". and these women who write these apinion pieces are trying to find validation from a bunch of strangers. more narcissistic if anything.
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Post by refill on May 6, 2020 11:56:40 GMT -5
It's a concept known as utilitarianism. Been around for a minute.
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Post by killedbyboard on May 6, 2020 11:56:47 GMT -5
The way most neolibs see it I'm guessing is that Trump is like a gaping wound that is bleeding the country out. That same body is riddled with cancer and other ailments, but the first priority is just to stop the bleeding. We can't even begin to address the other problems until Trump is gone. A second Trump presidency without the concern of reelection looming would be absolutely disastrous for women and people of color, and it's not worth the possibility that democrats "learn their lesson" or whatever infantile bullshit you think will happen if Biden doesn't win. At this point, either Biden is forced to drop out, in which case, the ensuing disaster all but assures Trump's second term, or Biden is the nominee and we are faced with the impossibly awful choice of continuing with a presumptive rapist as our president, or voting for a different rapist who might pick a good replacement for RBG. Either way, a rapist is our president. America the Beautiful.
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Post by Percussionist Foster Grant on May 6, 2020 11:57:12 GMT -5
Repeal the First Amendment.
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Post by Daytona 500 on May 6, 2020 12:01:47 GMT -5
Even if the rape stuff disappears there’s still Hunter Biden who will just be the new benghazi
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Post by killedbyboard on May 6, 2020 12:08:52 GMT -5
What if Biden came out at the debates and was like "Yeah, I raped that lady. My son Hunter is corrupt. I do live in a trailer with mom. My friend Barack is an Uncle Tom."
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Post by refill on May 6, 2020 12:17:03 GMT -5
I'm reading that in Slim Shady rap voice. Is that what I was supposed to do?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 12:19:29 GMT -5
It's a concept known as utilitarianism. Been around for a minute. Is utilitarianism inherently contradictory? I'm legit not trying to be a dickhead I'm just curious because all of these liberals feminists are saying they're being utilitarian but it just sounds like a cop-out to me. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 12:20:43 GMT -5
The way most neolibs see it I'm guessing is that Trump is like a gaping wound that is bleeding the country out. That same body is riddled with cancer and other ailments, but the first priority is just to stop the bleeding. We can't even begin to address the other problems until Trump is gone. A second Trump presidency without the concern of reelection looming would be absolutely disastrous for women and people of color, and it's not worth the possibility that democrats "learn their lesson" or whatever infantile bullshit you think will happen if Biden doesn't win. At this point, either Biden is forced to drop out, in which case, the ensuing disaster all but assures Trump's second term, or Biden is the nominee and we are faced with the impossibly awful choice of continuing with a presumptive rapist as our president, or voting for a different rapist who might pick a good replacement for RBG. Either way, a rapist is our president. America the Beautiful. I think that's Trump's ultimate appeal to voters, though. He's basically been saying yeah I'm a bad guy but I don't hide it like all of these other people in Washington do. And to all of the anti-govt people, I can get why it's appealing. |
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Post by killedbyboard on May 6, 2020 12:21:13 GMT -5
It's a concept known as utilitarianism. Been around for a minute. Is utilitarianism inherently contradictory? I'm legit not trying to be a dickhead I'm just curious because all of these liberals feminists are saying they're being utilitarian but it just sounds like a cop-out to me. I think utilitarianism is widely considered a bankrupt form of moral and societal justice. It's being used broadly here to mean "I'm pretending my vote for a rapist has a moral undergirding." |
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Post by refill on May 6, 2020 12:33:19 GMT -5
Utilitarianism is not contradictory. It does, however, force people to bite the bullet in some marginal scenarios. Peter Singer, for example, is known colloquially as an animal rights activist, but he doesn't believe in rights at all--for anyone, human or non-human. His beliefs are about promoting the max good. So there are some cases where it would be morally acceptable, according to Singer, to kill and eat an animal. Utilitarianism has plenty of flaws, and it's been heavily modified in since Bentham/Mill to make it more practical (e.g. something like rule-consequentialism). But I think in terms of "folk morality," utilitarianism still wins the day.
EDIT: I think what people are trying to get at by pointing at these op-eds as being hypocritical is that for Biden, they want to be utilitarians. If it were a republican, they would take a deontological approach (i.e. under no circumstances is it morally permissible for someone who commits sexual assault to be president). THAT is contradictory and is fair to point out.
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Post by Pat on May 6, 2020 12:36:10 GMT -5
I'll tell you what matters, parkour.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 12:43:08 GMT -5
Utilitarianism is not contradictory. It does, however, force people to bite the bullet in some marginal scenarios. Peter Singer, for example, is known colloquially as an animal rights activist, but he doesn't believe in rights at all--for anyone, human or non-human. His beliefs are about promoting the max good. So there are some cases where it would be morally acceptable, according to Singer, to kill and eat an animal. Utilitarianism has plenty of flaws, and it's been heavily modified in since Bentham/Mill to make it more practical (e.g. something like rule-consequentialism). But I think in terms of "folk morality," utilitarianism still wins the day.
EDIT: I think what people are trying to get at by pointing at these op-eds as being hypocritical is that for Biden, they want to be utilitarians. If it were a republican, they would take a deontological approach (i.e. under no circumstances is it morally permissible for someone who commits sexual assault to be president). THAT is contradictory and is fair to point out.
Which is why I prefer Tom Regan on the subject of animal rights |
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Post by refill on May 6, 2020 12:48:37 GMT -5
Utilitarianism is not contradictory. It does, however, force people to bite the bullet in some marginal scenarios. Peter Singer, for example, is known colloquially as an animal rights activist, but he doesn't believe in rights at all--for anyone, human or non-human. His beliefs are about promoting the max good. So there are some cases where it would be morally acceptable, according to Singer, to kill and eat an animal. Utilitarianism has plenty of flaws, and it's been heavily modified in since Bentham/Mill to make it more practical (e.g. something like rule-consequentialism). But I think in terms of "folk morality," utilitarianism still wins the day.
EDIT: I think what people are trying to get at by pointing at these op-eds as being hypocritical is that for Biden, they want to be utilitarians. If it were a republican, they would take a deontological approach (i.e. under no circumstances is it morally permissible for someone who commits sexual assault to be president). THAT is contradictory and is fair to point out.
Which is why I prefer Tom Regan on the subject of animal rights Haha, and I'm a Singer dude. Check out Gary Francione as well if you haven't--he's another rights guy. |
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Post by bawitdaba on May 6, 2020 12:57:12 GMT -5
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Post by jj____ on May 6, 2020 13:03:06 GMT -5
Vice News Tonight is just like a CNN program where the presenter doesn’t brush his hair and it’s casual Friday. Who watches this shit
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