☭POLITICS☭: Election Season Hell

[refill]

Has an actual Biden stan ever posted on this board?

[itii]

Jun 26, 2020 16:55:58 GMT -5 @spsp said:

There is a conversation that can be had about leftists advocating voting for Biden because they understand there is plenty of work to be done outside of the tiny act of voting for the president, but that's never the conversation that happens here now is it? It's always a defense of Biden the individual and "fuck you" to go with it. 

There is definitely a conversation to be had about it, and I tried to talk about it months ago, but I generally don't wade through it anymore because it starts with either "voting is libs and facists," "voting lesser evil is an impediment to the revolution because stop gap measures are seen a victories that lead a stoppage in local groundwork" or "if you love him so much, why don't you marry him?"

I think there's been 2 earnest defenses of Biden as a qualified or "good" candidate, everyone else seems to be of the mind that he's literally the least they could do(except maybe that rat faced guy). The rest revolves around most of y'all's interactions and throwing around stuff about how some people are privileged enough to not have to engage and others thinking you're wrong for not fighting with every tooth and nail in an ongoing war that effects us all.

But whatever, it's friday and I'm gettin in the way jokes.

[Deleted]

I may have joked around about marrying Joe Biden if you love him so much (do it marry him), but the privilege argument is always used against the communists on board.

I don't know though, maybe if the planets align we'll finally be able to have a constructive conservation about Vice President Joseph Biden and his immense contributions to the well-being of us all. And this is why it is the bad faith debate thread. You've got generally two groups of people (one that is right all of the time) who can't even agree on basic premises.

[svejk]

i think we can all agree that cornpop was a bad dude

[lobsterdog]

Jun 26, 2020 17:10:42 GMT -5 refill said:

Has an actual Biden stan ever posted on this board?

can you access this board through AOL 6.0?

[refill]

Jun 26, 2020 18:14:54 GMT -5 lobsterdog said:

Jun 26, 2020 17:10:42 GMT -5 refill said:

Has an actual Biden stan ever posted on this board?

can you access this board through AOL 6.0?

Haha, you're such a weird ho

[The new Jan Brady]

The democat (hell even angela davis said it) argument seems to be "Biden would not be very good but he would be easier to reason with" and I just wanna know what about his record suggests that? Why do you think he wouldn't bend over backwards in the name of "gotta be reasonable" this is definitely my white privilege speaking but more has changed since we've hit rock bottom, and none of it was cuz politicians decided to be good. The people demanded it. Again, privilege speaking but I think electing Biden is like electing JT in canada. The working class can pat themselves on the back and admire how they have a leader that "sounds presidential" or whatever but it's a false sense of security and mostly just lazy.

I'm sure someone better read than I in the commie thread made this point like two years ago, but yea that's my fundamental hesitation for voting Biden.

[itii]

Jun 26, 2020 18:17:23 GMT -5 The new Jan Brady said:

The democat (hell even angela davis said it) argument seems to be "Biden would not be very good but he would be easier to reason with" and I just wanna know what about his record suggests that? Why do you think he wouldn't bend over backwards in the name of "gotta be reasonable" this is definitely my white privilege speaking but more has changed since we've hit rock bottom, and none of it was cuz politicians decided to be good. The people demanded it. Again, privilege speaking but I think electing Biden is like electing JT in canada. The working class can pat themselves on the back and admire how they have a leader that "sounds presidential" or whatever but it's a false sense of security and mostly just lazy.

I'm sure someone better read than I in the commie thread made this point like two years ago, but yea that's my fundamental hesitation for voting Biden.

You should be hesitant and apprehensive in voting for the guy. His political track-record is trash all the way down and he's a social elite. Anyone saying he's going to fix shit is lying to either you or themselves. The leftist argument to vote for biden should be that it's a stop-gap that removes a guy that's telling people that social responsibility and science is for cucks, tries to hold a clan rally at a racist massacre on juneteenth and tries to roll back social reforms on the anniversaries of their respective massacres.

But it's also why voting out trump shouldn't be seen as any sort of accomplishment or victory(pyrrhic or cadmean). It's not actually going to solve any of the social issues. Just (theoretically) stop them from being astroturfed, while (theoretically) people continue to organize and actualize their communities.

[jefe]

I mean...it's not even the height of this pandemic (in the US) and the current president actively undermines the CDC.

[𝖒𝖊𝖔𝖜𝖋𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓]

Jun 26, 2020 17:05:26 GMT -5 lobsterdog said:

whats everyones favorite type of summer sausage though

There's more than one kind??

[lobsterdog]

Jun 26, 2020 19:59:00 GMT -5 𝖒𝖊𝖔𝖜𝖋𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 said:

Jun 26, 2020 17:05:26 GMT -5 lobsterdog said:

whats everyones favorite type of summer sausage though

There's more than one kind??

bro theres like 5 different kinds of just spanish summer sausage. 

[FEMA Sniper]

Salchicha Caballero by Ray's Own Brand. Throw em on the grill with the tri tip. Feel the California summer sun and forget this flaming tub of shit world.

[Reasonablepizza518]

Jun 26, 2020 19:03:00 GMT -5 itii said:

Jun 26, 2020 18:17:23 GMT -5 The new Jan Brady said:

The democat (hell even angela davis said it) argument seems to be "Biden would not be very good but he would be easier to reason with" and I just wanna know what about his record suggests that? Why do you think he wouldn't bend over backwards in the name of "gotta be reasonable" this is definitely my white privilege speaking but more has changed since we've hit rock bottom, and none of it was cuz politicians decided to be good. The people demanded it. Again, privilege speaking but I think electing Biden is like electing JT in canada. The working class can pat themselves on the back and admire how they have a leader that "sounds presidential" or whatever but it's a false sense of security and mostly just lazy.

I'm sure someone better read than I in the commie thread made this point like two years ago, but yea that's my fundamental hesitation for voting Biden.

You should be hesitant and apprehensive in voting for the guy. His political track-record is trash all the way down and he's a social elite. Anyone saying he's going to fix shit is lying to either you or themselves. The leftist argument to vote for biden should be that it's a stop-gap that removes a guy that's telling people that social responsibility and science is for cucks, tries to hold a clan rally at a racist massacre on juneteenth and tries to roll back social reforms on the anniversaries of their respective massacres.

But it's also why voting out trump shouldn't be seen as any sort of accomplishment or victory(pyrrhic or cadmean). It's not actually going to solve any of the social issues. Just (theoretically) stop them from being astroturfed, while (theoretically) people continue to organize and actualize their communities.

This is where I'm at with it. We're seeing the damage Trump can do in real time on a daily basis.

Someone else mentioned the supreme court pick and that's what scares me the most because that'll have profound repercussions that could last the rest of our lives.

[xnate☭hatex]

[boundforgloryhole]

[boundforgloryhole]

http://instagram.com/p/CB1_5lDjB3t

[lurkinhardorhardlylu]

Jun 26, 2020 23:28:16 GMT -5 Reasonablepizza518 said:

Jun 26, 2020 19:03:00 GMT -5 itii said:

You should be hesitant and apprehensive in voting for the guy. His political track-record is trash all the way down and he's a social elite. Anyone saying he's going to fix shit is lying to either you or themselves. The leftist argument to vote for biden should be that it's a stop-gap that removes a guy that's telling people that social responsibility and science is for cucks, tries to hold a clan rally at a racist massacre on juneteenth and tries to roll back social reforms on the anniversaries of their respective massacres.

But it's also why voting out trump shouldn't be seen as any sort of accomplishment or victory(pyrrhic or cadmean). It's not actually going to solve any of the social issues. Just (theoretically) stop them from being astroturfed, while (theoretically) people continue to organize and actualize their communities.

This is where I'm at with it. We're seeing the damage Trump can do in real time on a daily basis.

Someone else mentioned the supreme court pick and that's what scares me the most because that'll have profound repercussions that could last the rest of our lives.

funnily enough, gorsuch dissented against lgbtq discrimination despite being appointed in order to carry out conservative bidding

[lobsterdog]

Jun 27, 2020 16:59:22 GMT -5 lurkinhardorhardlylu said:

Jun 26, 2020 23:28:16 GMT -5 Reasonablepizza518 said:

This is where I'm at with it. We're seeing the damage Trump can do in real time on a daily basis.

Someone else mentioned the supreme court pick and that's what scares me the most because that'll have profound repercussions that could last the rest of our lives.

funnily enough, gorsuch dissented against lgbtq discrimination despite being appointed in order to carry out conservative bidding

on that same tip, RBG, liberal queen, voted in favor of deporting asylum seekers without trial

COOL. luv 2 resist. 

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Jun 27, 2020 17:15:03 GMT -5 lobsterdog said:

Jun 27, 2020 16:59:22 GMT -5 lurkinhardorhardlylu said:

funnily enough, gorsuch dissented against lgbtq discrimination despite being appointed in order to carry out conservative bidding

on that same tip, RBG, liberal queen, voted in favor of deporting asylum seekers without trial

COOL. luv 2 resist. 

Exactly why liberals holding losing the supreme court over everyone’s heads as a reason to vote for their shitty candidate is ridiculous. The court is already lost.

[Sorley Boy]

Asylum seekers do get a hearing. They go through immigration court.

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www.express.co.uk/news/world/1301288/kim-jong-un-dead-north-korea-south-korea-japan-taro-kano-coronavirus-covid19-kim-yo-jong

would anyone like to discuss the DPRK in this thread?

[Ass Dan]

Rest in shit doughboy

[Frederik]

Another country that will have a female head of state before the U.S.

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[FEMA Sniper]

Jun 27, 2020 20:18:45 GMT -5 Frederik said:

Another country that will have a female head of state before the U.S.

"Girl Boss" libs are going to be conflicted as fuck.

[itii]

Jun 27, 2020 23:29:56 GMT -5 FEMA Sniper said:

Jun 27, 2020 20:18:45 GMT -5 Frederik said:

Another country that will have a female head of state before the U.S.

"Girl Boss" libs are going to be conflicted as fuck.

Personally, I'm stoked about more Karens at the book club meetings. 

[Percussionist Foster Grant]

Kim Jong Un's sister could get it.

[RIP RIDE!!!]

Jun 27, 2020 11:39:49 GMT -5 boundforgloryhole said:

http://instagr.am/p/CB1_5lDjB3t

imagine a round oily stain making the mask see-through with an orange hue

[Porch Honky]

SBC infiltrates a 3%er event:

[theywalkedinline]

Jun 27, 2020 23:29:56 GMT -5 FEMA Sniper said:

Jun 27, 2020 20:18:45 GMT -5 Frederik said:

Another country that will have a female head of state before the U.S.

"Girl Boss" libs are going to be conflicted as fuck.

Don't get me started on these people. I work(ed) for a non-profit that provides low cost housing in low income neighborhoods and my boss (the director) casually pulls up in an XC 90 Momentum one day. I rarely saw her because she always worked from home (far away from the neighborhoods and communities we were trying to help) but she would occasionally come take photo ops with homeowners (the white savior with the refugee or low income worker photo). She always talked liberal politics but routinely asked me to fire hispanic and black workers, I didn't. In fact, after five years of managing the organization I only fired one person and that's because he crashed a vehicle and tested positive for opioids. She was constantly attending women's empowerment conferences in California, Florida and Hawaii (paid for by donors).

I eventually couldn't take it, wen't above HR and her boss (her best friend) and wen't to the board. I put in my two weeks the next day and she was fired a month later. 

Lesson learned, the non-profit world is just as exploitive as the the rest of capitalism.