Turnstile

[SUN HIT FACE]

Aug 27, 2021 10:51:37 GMT -5 AL 🎄✨🦌 said:

at what point do they go in the running for best discography in hardcore?

Neveruary 31st? I like them a lot but this is way over the top.

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Aug 27, 2021 21:20:10 GMT -5 crimsonotter said:

This honestly could be the second machine gun Kelly “pop punk” album

this is just silly

[internetbully]

This seems like such a pivotal album like the type of stuff that will expose a new generation to punk and hardcore.

[SchlongConnery]

Aug 28, 2021 2:53:00 GMT -5 internetbully said:

This seems like such a pivotal album like the type of stuff that will expose a new generation to punk and hardcore.

That's a nice way of saying it's boring and sucks but they have a lot of dick riders.

It's so weird that THIS band has a can do no wrong cult. 

[Deleted]

Yeah this shit is so whatever lol.. lame band.

[crimsonotter]

Aug 28, 2021 2:24:58 GMT -5 𝖒𝖊𝖔𝖜𝖋𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 said:

Aug 27, 2021 21:20:10 GMT -5 crimsonotter said:

This honestly could be the second machine gun Kelly “pop punk” album

this is just silly

It’s not far off.

[AL 🎄✨🦌]

Aug 27, 2021 23:34:50 GMT -5 SUN HIT FACE said:

Aug 27, 2021 10:51:37 GMT -5 AL 🎄✨🦌 said:

at what point do they go in the running for best discography in hardcore?

Neveruary 31st? I like them a lot but this is way over the top.

never said the best but one of the best really isn’t out of the question if they keep making solid albums since pretty much every long running influential band has at least one bad album

[nhf]

Gave it an honest second listen and nahh. Everyone in my feed saying album of the year is high. Turnstile super fans are like trump fans talking about how they can do no wrong. This is their one bad album. It’s ok to admit it people.

[emerald_wizard]

Nah I like it a lot. To say this is straight up bad sounds more like a high apinion to me.

[emerald_wizard]

*unless you were never a fan of them in the first place

[fuzzyslippers]

Aug 27, 2021 14:48:51 GMT -5 crimsonotter said:

If this weren’t turnstile, this would be shit in so heavily.

I definitely understand why people don’t like the album but I don’t think this is true? Much of the positive reception this album has gotten so far has been from people who are (more likely than not) unfamiliar with their first few releases

[fuzzyslippers]

It’s ok to not like things other people do without having to make excuses for it

[Ass Dan]

This is fucking great. Absolutely what I wanted the last LP to sound like.

Not sure if it’s album of the year but it’s definitely top five or ten.

[killedbyboard]

I'm gonna be real honest with ya'll. I was never a huge Turnstile fan. PTS was good but it was pretty generic to me, and Step 2 Rhythm was a little corny for my tastes, maybe trying too hard to be something.

Then I wen't and saw them live shortly after Nonstop Feeling came out and it finally clicked. They are absolutely an era-defining band. Everything they have been putting out is authentic and ambitious. This new one is a straight up instant classic. If you're not down, that's fine, everyone has their own tastes, but you'll be on the wrong side of history.

[nalyd]

Aug 28, 2021 9:55:59 GMT -5 killedbyboard said:

I'm gonna be real honest with ya'll. I was never a huge Turnstile fan. PTS was good but it was pretty generic to me, and Step 2 Rhythm was a little corny for my tastes, maybe trying too hard to be something.

Then I wen't and saw them live shortly after Nonstop Feeling came out and it finally clicked. They are absolutely an era-defining band. Everything they have been putting out is authentic and ambitious. This new one is a straight up instant classic. If you're not down, that's fine, everyone has their own tastes, but you'll be on the wrong side of history.

"Grandpa, what do you mean you slept on UNDERWATER BOI when it dropped, issa classic track!"

[crimsonotter]

Aug 28, 2021 8:34:18 GMT -5 fuzzyslippers said:

It’s ok to not like things other people do without having to make excuses for it

No one is making excuses. Giving a reason why you think it’s bad is t an excuse.
And yes..throw state champs or some other band name on this and people would think it’s trash or not even listen to it.

This album will be forgotten in a year or two

[fuzzyslippers]

I just skipped around a few State Champs tracks on Spotify (because I’m open to being wrong) and I’m not sure you actually listened to this record

[Mr. Dingle Foot]

Aug 28, 2021 10:25:50 GMT -5 crimsonotter said:

Aug 28, 2021 8:34:18 GMT -5 fuzzyslippers said:

It’s ok to not like things other people do without having to make excuses for it

No one is making excuses. Giving a reason why you think it’s bad is t an excuse.
And yes..throw state champs or some other band name on this and people would think it’s trash or not even listen to it.

This album will be forgotten in a year or two

I don't think it's fair to make the point you're trying to. If this was a stand alone record, you're right - it probably wouldn't get the attention it is. But isn't that the whole point of being a band and having a discography that builds and grows over time? Turnstile has done that with each album and this one fits exactly into that. For me, that's part of what makes it great - there are things from the past, things from the present and a lot of what they might want to do in the future.

even if you're not into it, there is no way this album is forgotten in the next ten years. I know you feel offended that other people like this, but this is a horrible take.

[crimsonotter]

Aug 28, 2021 10:48:09 GMT -5 Mr. Dingle Foot said:

Aug 28, 2021 10:25:50 GMT -5 crimsonotter said:

No one is making excuses. Giving a reason why you think it’s bad is t an excuse.
And yes..throw state champs or some other band name on this and people would think it’s trash or not even listen to it.

This album will be forgotten in a year or two

I don't think it's fair to make the point you're trying to. If this was a stand alone record, you're right - it probably wouldn't get the attention it is. But isn't that the whole point of being a band and having a discography that builds and grows over time? Turnstile has done that with each album and this one fits exactly into that. For me, that's part of what makes it great - there are things from the past, things from the present and a lot of what they might want to do in the future.

even if you're not into it, there is no way this album is forgotten in the next ten years. I know you feel offended that other people like this, but this is a horrible take.

I’m not offended by people liking, it’s just wild to see it viewed as a masterpiece.

Even as a turnstile album, it’s not that great. Sure it’s a progression, but it also sounds lazy as hell. Every song is riff riff. Echoed vocals. Riff. Weird Casio keyboard sound and maybe a solo thrown in.

If anyone’s offended, it’s people pissed that others don’t like it or or criticizing it.

[crimsonotter]

Aug 28, 2021 10:42:37 GMT -5 fuzzyslippers said:

I just skipped around a few State Champs tracks on Spotify (because I’m open to being wrong) and I’m not sure you actually listened to this record

Never heard the band, just using them as a name to toss on it.

[Frank Rizzo]

Had to go back because I can see what you’re saying about it being called a masterpiece - I do think that’s a bit silly. I also tend to think that people over exaggerate their apinions of something freshly new - whether good or bad.

[Mr. Dingle Foot]

Everyone I've seen mad at this album is 30+, doesn't actively listen to new hardcore/go to shows all that often, but still makes their identity being into "underground" music.

[crimsonotter]

I’ve seen that comment by so many people towards those who don’t like it. Aren’t the guys in the band late 20s/ 30+ at this point?
People in the age group have listened to far worse/experimental stuff.

[Mr. Dingle Foot]

I have no idea how old Turnstile dudes are, to be honest, I only started listening to them at NSF and I find this album better so far. I'm also well past 30.

What does "far worse/experimental" have to do with it? The arguments against it (I can understand not liking it but actively trying to shit on it is something else), have been from people who seem to want to make sure everyone knows they listen to "far worse/experimental stuff" and this isn't it.

[Jack Hard]

This is the first Turnstile album I really like. It's a great record. Even when he sounds like Toby(fuck you toby bitch).

[Jack Hard]

Might be my second favourite release of the year in the melodic sounding vibes. The Stand Still ep is a masterpiece. I'm so glad this sound is coming back.

[crimsonotter]

Aug 28, 2021 11:15:03 GMT -5 Mr. Dingle Foot said:

I have no idea how old Turnstile dudes are, to be honest, I only started listening to them at NSF and I find this album better so far. I'm also well past 30.

What does "far worse/experimental" have to do with it? The arguments against it (I can understand not liking it but actively trying to shit on it is something else), have been from people who seem to want to make sure everyone knows they listen to "far worse/experimental stuff" and this isn't it.

Because it’s being labeled as “not cookie cutter hardcore” or progressive and that they’re experimenting with the sound.

[Jack Hard]

Imo it's not reinventing the wheel, it's just a really melodic hardcore album. I'm not a turnstile fan in general, but this and the EP hits.

[Frank Rizzo]

Fuck Toby.

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Aug 28, 2021 5:35:27 GMT -5 crimsonotter said:

Aug 28, 2021 2:24:58 GMT -5 𝖒𝖊𝖔𝖜𝖋𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 said:

this is just silly

It’s not far off.

i feel like you either didn't listen to it or are unfamiliar with mgk's current work