☭POLITICS☭: Election Season Hell

[bonerinsweatpants]

iran is def top 3 countries i want to travel to ASAP

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What does Vietnam have to do with anything lol

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www.greanvillepost.com/2018/10/06/left-anticommunism-the-unkindest-cut/
this essay just says it all

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I want to visit the DPRK

[neatneatneat]

Jun 18, 2020 13:54:09 GMT -5 @finkleiseinhorn said:

What does Vietnam have to do with anything lol

[itii]

It's kinda amazing how incendiary a place even a place that's pretty much in lockstep about its morals can be its politics...

[theywalkedinline]

Jun 18, 2020 13:54:09 GMT -5 @finkleiseinhorn said:

What does Vietnam have to do with anything lol

It's a socialist state... I was answering an accusation about the people I criticize and how they're never from the west, which was asinine. 

[killedbyboard]

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Jun 18, 2020 13:56:10 GMT -5 @spsp said:

www.greanvillepost.com/2018/10/06/left-anticommunism-the-unkindest-cut/
this essay just says it all

hmm

[theywalkedinline]

Jun 18, 2020 13:57:25 GMT -5 @spsp said:

I want to visit the DPRK

Bring me back a poster, Otto. 

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k

[roofies]

On that note, Kim is dead, right?

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ohhhhhhh boy

[FEMA Sniper]

Jun 18, 2020 13:57:25 GMT -5 @spsp said:

I want to visit the DPRK

What's stopping you?

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Jun 18, 2020 13:52:49 GMT -5 bonerinsweatpants said:

iran is def top 3 countries i want to travel to ASAP

i'd love for TWIL to go there and tell iranians living in iran that iran is a "theocratic dictatorship" and see how well it goes. i'd enjoy it. 

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Jun 18, 2020 14:17:49 GMT -5 FEMA Sniper said:

Jun 18, 2020 13:57:25 GMT -5 @spsp said:

I want to visit the DPRK

What's stopping you?

$$

[Ese Ese]

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Americans can't go to NK right now. I tried to go when I lived in Vietnam. Koryo Tours does some really cool looking stuff for foreigners wanting to visit.

[ed]

On a lighter note, Matty G has been calling this kid everything except his son for 7 years.

[roofies]

Jun 18, 2020 14:24:55 GMT -5 Ese Ese said:

"A wall" = four 3-foot-high road blocks blowing off 1/4 mile stretch of street. 

[heathenist]

Jun 18, 2020 14:28:23 GMT -5 roofies said:

Jun 18, 2020 14:24:55 GMT -5 Ese Ese said:

"A wall" = four 3-foot-high road blocks blowing off 1/4 mile stretch of street. 

That people can freely walk past.

[theywalkedinline]

Jun 18, 2020 14:18:32 GMT -5 @sami said:

Jun 18, 2020 13:52:49 GMT -5 bonerinsweatpants said:

iran is def top 3 countries i want to travel to ASAP

i'd love for TWIL to go there and tell iranians living in iran that iran is a "theocratic dictatorship" and see how well it goes. i'd enjoy it. 

STATEMENT OF THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE OF THE TUDEH PARTY OF IRAN: THE STRUGGLE OF THE PEOPLE OF IRAN - FRUSTRATED WITH OPPRESSION, TYRANNY, HIGH PRICES AND DESPOTISM - AGAINST THE DICTATORSHIP IS REAL AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE SNATCHED AWAY AND MISAPP

Dear compatriots,

The politico-economic crisis of the bankrupt theocratic regime of Iran is growing and deepening daily. The impact of this crisis can be observed in the internal regime conflicts and the unprecedented revelations of infighting between powerful factions - revealing the depth of corruption and oppression that prevails in the so-called “exemplary system of the world”.

The spiralling poverty, deprivation, high prices and chronic unemployment - which have ruined the lives of a large portion of the population and in particular the youth, - the extensive and disastrous destruction of the environment, due to the catastrophic policies of the ruling power, and the complete economic bankruptcy of the regime as well as escalation of external pressures on the regime, have altogether created a very critical and explosive situation in our society. The heads of the regime who are living a luxury life with an unprecedented fortune that they have amassed over the last forty years by plundering the national resources and wealth of the nation, ask the people to be patient and tolerate the hardship in order to “guard the Islamic regime” - a regime that has brought nothing to our nation except destruction and cultural, political and economic regress. The current rulers have shown in practice that their only goal and desire is to save the current despotic regime and the absolute rule of the dark-minded clergy over our nation at the cost of any crime and any tragedy.

Recent weeks have witnessed the escalation of discontent and unprecedented protest gatherings of the people in numerous cities, as well as broad and extensive labour protests against high prices, oppression and the injustices perpetrated by governing bodies, from the government and parliament (Majlis) to the Judiciary and the Islamic Guards Corps and the Supreme Religious Leadership all of which protect the interests of the grand capitalists. The escalation in the discontent of the people regarding the existing situation and, more importantly, the readiness and willingness of the enraged and frustrated masses to take on the suppressive apparatus of the regime is an indication of the significant developments in the level of preparedness of the masses in opposing - and waging an open fight against - the rule of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Contrary to the claims of some leaders of the pro-regime reformists that such protests are “conspiracies”, we deeply believe that the majority of the people of our nation are disappointed and frustrated with the slogans of those whose only objectives are to make some cosmetic and minor adjustments to the current regime, and are now demanding fundamental changes in the governance of the country. Today only those who would like to somehow preserve the current disastrous situation fear the escalation and growth of the people’s struggle. The experience of the last two decades and several presidential, parliamentary, and city council elections that were held, and manipulated under the control and direction of the Supreme Leader, has proved that the people are rapidly moving away from the strategy of making a choice between bad and worse, and are no longer willing to submit to the manipulation of their demands by the regime and the pro-regime reformists who by and large play the role of that nation’s power brokers these days. The majority of the people of the homreland today want to put an end to the despotic theocratic regime; to end the oppression and injustice; and bring about the establishment of freedom and social justice. These demands can only be achieved through a joint struggle of all the national and freedom-loving forces without foreign intervention.

Dear compatriots,

At the same time, it should be noted that under the critical conditions of the current dangerous regional tensions, the regional reaction - supported by the Trump administration in the US and the right-wing government of Netanyahu in Israel - is seeking to distinctly impact the developments in our country and to replace the current reactionary regime with another reactionary regime. The support of these forcesi.e. the regional reaction, Trump administration, and the right-wing government of Netanyahu, for the Iranian monarchists and those political groups whose agenda is to cooperate with the most reactionary regimes of the region and to persuade the European states to impose sanctions on Iran’s economy - thereby exacerbating the misery for the destitute and disadvantaged people of our country - and to encourage foreign states to interfere militarily in Iran, leaves no room whatsoever for any optimism regarding the future designs of such “opposition”. The progressive and freedom-loving forces of Iran must increase their presence in the protest movement of the masses - more than ever before - providing proper people-oriented slogans, offering sensible guidance and relying on the legitimate demands of the masses for abolishing the existing suppressive regime and ending the economic deprivation, oppression, injustice and plundering of the natural and human resources of the nation, while avoiding reactionary and divisive slogans. We should not let the past repeat itself whereby the heroic struggle of the nation for freedom, democracy and social justice is hijacked by a bunch of reactionary opportunists who do not believe in the people’s rights or democratic freedoms.

Dear compatriots,

The way to save the country is through a joint and organised mobilisation of all the national, anti-dictatorship and freedom-loving forces to abolish the despotic and anti-people theocratic regime of the Supreme Leadership. Our party has been of the resolute belief that the ruling political regime in Iran - a regime that is based on the rule of one individual as the “representative of God on Earth” who is above and beyond all the laws and executive governing institutions, the legislative, the judiciary and the police and military apparatus - is a regime beyond reform and a people-based democratic regime cannot be created through any reworking of the current system. The solution is to wage a joint and organised struggle of all social layers - from the workers and all working people to the militant youth, student, women and progressive and freedom-loving intellectuals - around popular slogans against the rule of tyranny. The experience of our contemporary history has demonstrated that the peoples of Iran have the ability to convey their voice to the ears of the ruling reaction. Once again, we call upon all the national, progressive and freedom-loving forces of the nation to put aside their theoretical-historic disagreements and mobilise together, alongside the people’s movement to effectively help the struggle – the goal of which is to reject the tyranny and to establish the rule of the people and freedom, peace, sovereignty and social justice.

The Central Committee of the Tudeh Party of Iran

www.tudehpartyiran.org/en/news/3743-statement-of-the-central-committee-of-the-tudeh-party-of-iran-the-struggle-of-the-people-of-iran-frustrated-with-oppression-tyranny-high-prices-and-despotism-against-the-dictatorship-is-real-and-should-not-be-allowed-to-be-snatched-away-and-misappropriated-in-the-interests-of-domestic-or-foreign-reactionary-forces

[itii]

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[lobsterdog]

Jun 18, 2020 13:58:44 GMT -5 itii said:

It's kinda amazing how incendiary a place even a place that's pretty much in lockstep about its morals can be its politics...

But we're not. Liberals and communists aren't on the same team.

People here think capitalism can be reformed and people here don't and think it's gotta be eradicated.

I'm not sure I'd call that in lock step just because we all believe the DACA recipients shouldn't be deported. Hell if I had to guess there's probably some people here who don't believe they should just be given citizenship straight away.

[theywalkedinline]

Way to support your fellow comrades in Iran, Sami. Socialism for some, "a regime that is based on the rule of one individual as the “representative of God on Earth” who is above and beyond all the laws and executive governing institutions, the legislative, the judiciary and the police and military apparatus" for others, I suppose...






Eighty-seven Tudeh officials caught prison sentences ranging from eight months to life; these “lucky” ones, along with hundreds of other Tudeh adherents arrested in the years to come, would later be well-represented among the victims of Iran’s 1988 slaughter of political prisoners.

www.executedtoday.com/2017/02/25/1984-ten-members-of-the-tudeh-party/

[Sorley Boy]

Jun 18, 2020 13:19:03 GMT -5 ☭ Bob Loblaw ☭ said:

I think the point sami and many other posters in this thread (time and time again) have tried to highlight is that there's a very real inability for some of you to grasp that the shortcomings of communist nations more times than not have very little to do with Marxism or Socialism as a concept and moreso to do with how these countries have operated historically for centuries.  And simultaneously you somehow magically divorce the very real innate and inherent problems with Capitalism, Imperialsim and yes Fascism either due to convenience, ignorance or years of propaganda that has clearly worked very well.  

"The West" has pleeeenty of blood on its hands yet you rarely seem to want to discuss that.

That's not really true. There's a 250+ page thread on police brutality in the US. You can do a search for people criticizing drone strikes, foreign wars, mistreatment of minorities or whatever because there are thousands of posts on this board about that.

Also nobody suggested that, for example, China killing Indian soldiers on Indian territory or putting Muslims in concentration camps is a failure of Marxism per se. It has nothing to do with Marxism as a theory. Nobody suggested it did until the Marxists came in and defended those clear human rights abuses because they feel compelled to defend anything China's purportedly Marxist government does.  

[FEMA Sniper]

No gods, no masters, no borders.

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Jun 18, 2020 14:44:31 GMT -5 theywalkedinline said:

Way to support your fellow comrades in Iran, Sami. Socialism for some, "a regime that is based on the rule of one individual as the “representative of God on Earth” who is above and beyond all the laws and executive governing institutions, the legislative, the judiciary and the police and military apparatus" for others, I suppose...

okay, jacob from the midwest. again, you don't know shit, you're tokenizing iranians to fit your bullshit. go to iran, say your shit, and see how quick you get laughed out of everywhere you go.

my uncle was very active in the marxist circles before, during, and after the revolution. he'd laugh in your face. you're a white american who is arrogant as shit. 

[theywalkedinline]

Jun 18, 2020 14:45:31 GMT -5 @sami said:

What I expected from a spineless poser.