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Post by Sorley Boy on Jul 29, 2024 16:48:46 GMT -5
Agreed. I feel like most people intuitively know that to be true, but the fact computers and the internet are indispensable in adult life makes integrating them into education a fait accompli even though I doubt they do anything but harm children.
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Post by meatballmaniac on Jul 29, 2024 17:24:30 GMT -5
Agreed. I feel like most people intuitively know that to be true, but the fact computers and the internet are indispensable in adult life makes integrating them into education a fait accompli even though I doubt they do anything but harm children. The amount of computer literacy required to enter most careers is minimal. I suspect the ubiquity of computers in public elementary schools has much more to do with budgets, vendors, and other incentives. But, again, I don’t have that information in front of me.
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Post by theonefreeman on Jul 29, 2024 18:01:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I've thought about whether the no screen time/kidfluencer stance will turn my own kids into sheltered weirdos, but they'll be getting enough of it at school and if it ever becomes an issue for them socially, then I'll fight that battle when the time comes. Young children soak up everything that you put in front of them and I've watched friends choose time and time again to put on some dumb, spazzy cartoon for their toddlers rather than provide them with something that isn't literal brain rot. One of the kids is almost three years old and can barely string three words together. As someone who has spent some time in the education field, my advice to newer parents here is to read to your kids as much as possible. Get them interested in it. Basic literacy is the cornerstone of education and informs every subject in school. Your goal should be to get your kid reading Harry Potter by the time they're seven years old. They will look like geniuses compared to the kids who can't be bothered to not shit their own pants while playing Roblox because they're so addicted to the screen.
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Post by oogracie👻 on Jul 29, 2024 18:12:25 GMT -5
My kid start elementary school (TK) in 2 weeks…. How!
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Post by concealer on Jul 29, 2024 20:41:54 GMT -5
Somewhat related to the screen sickness being talked about, this video essay (yes I know, talking about screens being bad with a 2.5hr video) has a lot of great explanation of what it’s really like to be a kid growing up “on” the internet. Our generation (the 30+ yr olds) grew up with the internet as a thing but not in the true secondhand all-encompassing nature kids today do.
I don’t give a shit about Bo Burnham/Bezos and didn’t watch the special in question so you don’t have to either, but it’s mostly used as a jumping off point for the rest of the video. If you want to skip to checkpoint 1 it gets into it in detail. I know it’s long as hell but I’ve watched it a few times and honestly I’ve pulled some useful things from it I plan on keeping in mind when raising my daughter
Also you can jump to 1:09:10 for a good bit on social media and growing up “on” versus “with” the internet
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Post by meatballmaniac on Jul 29, 2024 21:01:44 GMT -5
Can you timestamp where Varg comes in?
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Post by concealer on Jul 29, 2024 21:06:30 GMT -5
Lol damn he really do be looking like him
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Post by theonefreeman on Jul 31, 2024 8:41:51 GMT -5
Does the name Cave for a boy slap or nah, no good? I've been set on it since the last one before we knew the gender and my wife was too, but now boring dumbasses are trying to tell her that the kid would be made fun of too much with that name and it's starting to get to her. Board's endorsement will surely sway her and definitely not irritate her in any way.
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Post by sarahohio on Jul 31, 2024 8:47:59 GMT -5
Does the name Cave for a boy slap or nah, no good? I've been set on it since the last one before we knew the gender and my wife was too, but now boring dumbasses are trying to tell her that the kid would be made fun of too much with that name and it's starting to get to her. Board's endorsement will surely sway her and definitely not irritate her in any way. This is why we have not told people what we want to name our child. They can go have their own kid if they care so much.
Names are so unique and all over the place these days. I think Cave is just fine, but like I said, fuck our apinions do what feels good for you guys!
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Post by oogracie👻 on Jul 31, 2024 8:51:45 GMT -5
Can cave be a nickname/short name for something?
Baby Cavendish.
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Post by oogracie👻 on Jul 31, 2024 8:52:38 GMT -5
My older daughter’s name is Holland (we call her Holly), we didn’t even tell people (a lot of people still don’t know), that Holly is short for Holland.
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Post by meatballmaniac on Jul 31, 2024 9:28:12 GMT -5
Can cave be a nickname/short name for something? Baby Cavendish. banana baby
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Post by foggy on Jul 31, 2024 10:01:02 GMT -5
Does the name Cave for a boy slap or nah, no good? I've been set on it since the last one before we knew the gender and my wife was too, but now boring dumbasses are trying to tell her that the kid would be made fun of too much with that name and it's starting to get to her. Board's endorsement will surely sway her and definitely not irritate her in any way. Joey Castillo, former drummer for QOTSA, Danzig, and current drummer for The Bronx, etc. named one of his kids Cave, I think the name is a bit "out there" but Cave Castillo has that alliteration going for it so I don't know.
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Post by Tstigz on Jul 31, 2024 10:04:12 GMT -5
Karst would be a dope name if we’re sticking with the cavernous theme
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Post by Sorley Boy on Jul 31, 2024 11:11:47 GMT -5
If you've seen the movie Ride With the Devil/read the book Woe to Live On there's a character named Cave Wyatt. He's a Confederate militiaman and apparently based on a real guy named Cave Wyatt. I think it's a cool name and I'd be shocked if anyone thinks you named your kid after an obscure Confederate but, piece of information.
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Post by headxtrauma on Jul 31, 2024 12:01:33 GMT -5
Does the name Cave for a boy slap or nah, no good? I've been set on it since the last one before we knew the gender and my wife was too, but now boring dumbasses are trying to tell her that the kid would be made fun of too much with that name and it's starting to get to her. Board's endorsement will surely sway her and definitely not irritate her in any way. Cave definitely slaps and you can slap anyone who says otherwise. I named mine after a Magic the Gathering card and am prepared to war with anyone lol.
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Post by theonefreeman on Jul 31, 2024 12:49:12 GMT -5
Does the name Cave for a boy slap or nah, no good? I've been set on it since the last one before we knew the gender and my wife was too, but now boring dumbasses are trying to tell her that the kid would be made fun of too much with that name and it's starting to get to her. Board's endorsement will surely sway her and definitely not irritate her in any way. Cave definitely slaps and you can slap anyone who says otherwise. I named mine after a Magic the Gathering card and am prepared to war with anyone lol. Hell yeah. My brain is telling me you wen't with Jace or Gideon, but my heart wants it to be Yawgmoth or Vorinclex.
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Post by I Gave You Power on Jul 31, 2024 23:15:01 GMT -5
It seems like even if you can get screen time under control at home, public schools use tablets and computers for hours every day. I feel like there's no escape from this stupid shit and I'm glad I wen't to a Catholic school where the head nun dug in on computers being a "fad." I don’t care how boomer this sounds but I am so happy, every day, that I wen't to college (04-08) before smartphones existed. It was such a legitimately perfect experience and I genuinely feel bad for everyone who has gone to college since. Obviously we’re societally ingrained with technology but thankfully I’ve been able to hold my daughter (3) off so far. We don’t own tablets and her screen time is just Frozen, Bluey, Sesame Street and Daniel Tiger and honestly outside the mornings where she loves watch shit for like an hour she doesn’t care too much about it. She does know how to swipe on a smart phone because she loves swiping through our camera rolls and obviously we’re gonna make sure she’s just as adept with changing technologies as anyone else but I’m already dreading the days where she’s locked in her room swiping through hologram Youtube videos or whatever the fuck. And people can say ‘well millennials had unfettered access to TV and the early internet’ and sure that’s true, but (almost) none of that inhibited social interaction or built unhealthy dependencies or false realities in the way social media does now.
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Post by headxtrauma on Aug 1, 2024 1:19:17 GMT -5
Cave definitely slaps and you can slap anyone who says otherwise. I named mine after a Magic the Gathering card and am prepared to war with anyone lol. Hell yeah. My brain is telling me you wen't with Jace or Gideon, but my heart wants it to be Yawgmoth or Vorinclex. Emrakul (unofficial middle name) the Aeons Torn. Wife was surprisingly very on board with the suggestion from jump so I had to run with it. We're wanting a second and I've selfishly been trying to push Kozilek / Ulamog but of course she isn't going to go for it lol.
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Post by foggy on Aug 1, 2024 9:12:15 GMT -5
I'll say this, Cave is certainly a better than the onslaught of stupid ass white kid names like Kaylen, Braylen, Jayleen etc.
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Post by coconut al on Aug 1, 2024 9:15:11 GMT -5
kid starts Pre-K at the public school next week. going from 4 to 5 days a week and saving so much fuckin money. we made it bitch.
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Post by oogracie👻 on Aug 1, 2024 9:18:48 GMT -5
kid starts Pre-K at the public school next week. going from 4 to 5 days a week and saving so much fuckin money. we made it bitch. Yep us too. I’m sad af that her day will be less play-focused, but i’m happy my checkbook will be less pre-school focused.
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Post by oogracie👻 on Aug 1, 2024 9:20:13 GMT -5
Hell yeah. My brain is telling me you wen't with Jace or Gideon, but my heart wants it to be Yawgmoth or Vorinclex. Emrakul (unofficial middle name) the Aeons Torn. Wife was surprisingly very on board with the suggestion from jump so I had to run with it. We're wanting a second and I've selfishly been trying to push Kozilek / Ulamog but of course she isn't going to go for it lol. Please do not name your child Ulamog. (Though tbh Ulie as a nickname is dope af)
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Post by Mr. Dingle Foot on Aug 1, 2024 9:34:11 GMT -5
Id call em Moogie or the Mogsters.
I say go for it
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Post by durangoderanged on Aug 1, 2024 9:38:43 GMT -5
I don’t know what to do for my 10yo son. He’s been spiraling since my divorce and has grown increasingly angry and despondent. He’s openly hostile to my gf and her family. Worse still, he has lost interest in anything other than YouTube, and he will watch Shorts for hours and hours. It’s the most vapid, terrible shit I’ve ever seen. Most of it is AI-generated, and so bizarre I can’t even describe it. He doesn’t even play video games anymore, just YouTube. He’s also functionally illiterate and I found out the other day that he doesn’t even know the names/order of the months. Because of technology, social alienation, both parents being full-time workers, and all the other ways that modern life prevents us from being humans, I have been unable to give him an enriched life full of varied experiences. And I don’t know how to break him away from the disgusting YouTube algorithm. I know he would fall even deeper into depression and resent me if I took it away completely. Feels bad, man. enroll him in martial arts and tell him he can have his stuff back as soon as he can beat your ass Unironically good advice
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Post by headxtrauma on Aug 1, 2024 11:44:38 GMT -5
Emrakul (unofficial middle name) the Aeons Torn. Wife was surprisingly very on board with the suggestion from jump so I had to run with it. We're wanting a second and I've selfishly been trying to push Kozilek / Ulamog but of course she isn't going to go for it lol. Please do not name your child Ulamog. (Though tbh Ulie as a nickname is dope af) THAT'S WHAT I KEEP TELLING HER! LIL ULIE! but for real it's just a bit between us since she let me get away with Emrakul. I think I get some say in the middle name, closest I can get to a MTG name in that is probably Liliana.
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Post by headxtrauma on Aug 1, 2024 11:45:18 GMT -5
Id call em Moogie or the Mogsters. I say go for it this guy gets it.
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Post by BadScene on Aug 1, 2024 13:13:11 GMT -5
We're about to start a pre-screen time protocol in my household -- a checklist of shit you need to do before getting a screen.
My 10 y/o has also started becoming a little shit -- moody and defiant at times, but I think it's probably par for the course. Nothing seem pathological yet, but we don't want it to get there. Roblox has been his vice of choice and we need to nip this in the bud quick. He recently swatted my wife's hand when she tried to take his ipod touch away and he lost it for a few days. The biggest bummer is that we used to have family screen time every night, where we all watch something together. For the past year or so, he's been opting to either play a game off in another room, or to do it on the couch "with us" but constantly asking what's happening in the movie. It needs to stop.
My 7 y/o has been binging YouTube Kids and the content is absolutely horrible. Some might have an tidbit of science or other quasi educational moments, but it's all absolute junk otherwise.
Our biggest problem is that it's the first thing they grab when they get home. Backpacks dropped on the floor, shoes kicked off, and it's immediately onto a screen... fuck that.
Devices have now been put out of reach and we need to see participation in basic household chores (put your shit away) before they get their screen back. We'll see how it goes.
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Post by theonefreeman on Aug 1, 2024 14:56:45 GMT -5
Hell yeah. My brain is telling me you wen't with Jace or Gideon, but my heart wants it to be Yawgmoth or Vorinclex. Emrakul (unofficial middle name) the Aeons Torn. Wife was surprisingly very on board with the suggestion from jump so I had to run with it. We're wanting a second and I've selfishly been trying to push Kozilek / Ulamog but of course she isn't going to go for it lol. Your kid's middle name is literally Emrakul? TMDWU.
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Post by Pat on Aug 1, 2024 15:03:26 GMT -5
Emrakul (unofficial middle name) the Aeons Torn. Wife was surprisingly very on board with the suggestion from jump so I had to run with it. We're wanting a second and I've selfishly been trying to push Kozilek / Ulamog but of course she isn't going to go for it lol. Please do not name your child Ulamog. (Though tbh Ulie as a nickname is dope af)
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